enter ADIZ squawking 7600?
- Thread starter pkrgod
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ADIZ entry requirements are 1. Discrete code and 2. two way communication. While a transponder does involve communication, it's not two way. In the scenario provided, you would not be allowed into the ADIZ. Further, if went lost comm after getting into the ADIZ you'd have to leave by the most direct route. It's a real mess because there are places where the most direct route would involve an airspace violation in a nordo situation since you can be cleared into the class B airspace.
You'd likely not see military aircraft by the way. Just some Customs Blackhawks.
-LC
You'd likely not see military aircraft by the way. Just some Customs Blackhawks.
-LC
Minuteman
I HAVE STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT AUTOMOTIVE LIGHTING!
So with that new red and green light fence thing they're talking about putting up to warn off aircraft that enter restricted airspace, I do believe that means you would get...
"An assful of laser!"
(Sorry, nothing useful here. I just look forward to annoying people with that line after they put the first one up.)
"An assful of laser!"
(Sorry, nothing useful here. I just look forward to annoying people with that line after they put the first one up.)
I_WANNA_BE_ATP
New Member
Ok, I may be missing something but what else is new. Is this flight under VFR or IFR and what are the weather conditions? If it is IFR and in IMC can the pilot continue to the destination within the ADIZ under 91.185, assuming this is a 91 flight?
Or another scenario, its a great CAVU day, you decide to fly a skyhawk from Tampa to Key West with some friends for lunch. You file VFR, get you code and you are approaching the KARTR, which is outside the ADIZ and the middle of the nowhere. You lose communication ability. Can you continue on to Key West or turn towards Marathon or head back towards Fort Myers ???
Am I reading too much into this?
Or another scenario, its a great CAVU day, you decide to fly a skyhawk from Tampa to Key West with some friends for lunch. You file VFR, get you code and you are approaching the KARTR, which is outside the ADIZ and the middle of the nowhere. You lose communication ability. Can you continue on to Key West or turn towards Marathon or head back towards Fort Myers ???
Am I reading too much into this?
flyguy
Well-Known Member
It would depend on the situation but the FARs allow you to deviate from any FAR in the event of an emergency. If you lose comms over the ocean, and don't have the range to make it clear across, your only option would be to ditch. I think that would qualify as a situation that would allow you to deviate from the FARs and you would be able to come across the ADIZ to land. Even if you are intercepted, as long as you cooperate and have a ligitimate lost comm, I really doubt the issue would be pressed.
Now if you just happened to be on a flight plan that took you through DC and lost comms, I'd suggest going around that ADIZ, or if I was comming up from Mexico I'd land in Mexico and get the radio fixed there before trying to penetrate the ADIZ.
Now if you just happened to be on a flight plan that took you through DC and lost comms, I'd suggest going around that ADIZ, or if I was comming up from Mexico I'd land in Mexico and get the radio fixed there before trying to penetrate the ADIZ.
Gotta be a little careful about how you say that. I know you didn't mean it, but what you wrote could be construed as carte blanche to disregard all FARs during an emergency. What you are really allowed is to deviate from the FARs only as necessary to handle the emergency. Subtle difference, maybe, but could be important.flyguy said:
I think I know what you were going for here, but again the wording is a little problematic.
What were you going to do (i.e. where were you going to go) before you lost comms in this situation???I'd agree. I would do everything possible, including turning around or landing short, to avoid flight in an ADIZ without talking to the guys that control the trigger fingers.
