Endeavor Flow for new hires

Reserve, in many categories can go fairly senior.

If you want to make bank in some categories, you bid reserve and utilize the bits and pieces of a contract to maximize your time at home and pay.

If I lived in base, I would certainly sit reserve. Ask @Jimflyfast how much he's actually flown.

I'd totally bid reserve if it wasn't downright abusive at Surejet.

Our fearless leader feels that pilots not flying are wasting money, so reserves fly all the time. Then we have an irop and wonder where all the pilots are.
 
Reserve, in many categories can go fairly senior.

If you want to make bank in some categories, you bid reserve and utilize the bits and pieces of a contract to maximize your time at home and pay.

If I lived in base, I would certainly sit reserve. Ask @Jimflyfast how much he's actually flown.
Senior reserve can be a great duty. Long Call is the greatest thing since sliced bread where I work, especially if you don't have to commute to it. With our systemwide staffing the way it is, too, nobody's allowed to drop...so here I sit.
 
Senior reserve can be a great duty. Long Call is the greatest thing since sliced bread where I work, especially if you don't have to commute to it. With our systemwide staffing the way it is, too, nobody's allowed to drop...so here I sit.

What about freight dog reserve?
 
Senior reserve can be a great duty. Long Call is the greatest thing since sliced bread where I work, especially if you don't have to commute to it. With our systemwide staffing the way it is, too, nobody's allowed to drop...so here I sit.

To shift the topic to RAH for a sec, when the last TA was released it had LCR in it (which we don't currently have). Which was nice, but there was zero req's for the company to use it. Our FA's voted for it in they're latest contract with the same problem, no req's to use it. Sure enough, last week a memo came down from Ops saying, "due to a high volume of last minute call offs, LCR will no longer be utilized."
 
I'm pretty senior, at the one third mark, and I got my fourth choice of four long call reserve lines. It's very senior. Had to do a nasty trip last week, though. Real freight dawg stuff. JAN-SDF-west coast and back the next night. Don't see how people do that all the time but maybe I'm just getting old.
 
Back on the EtD annoucement and a quick flow to Delta the recruiters will try to sell, I feel this would be an appropriate theme song for new hires:



On a personal note, this song brings back a lot of good memories from my childhood. :)
 
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Reserve here is pretty good. LCR or SCR is more or less the same for me since I'm based at home. Okay, not exactly. If I get LCR, it's basically a day off if they don't call me before 7 am. When I was commuting to reserve, I could sit LCR at home, which was nice. And they never used me on LCR. If I had SCR and there was a trip in open time, you could bid on it in seniority order. So, the guys that lived in BOS could stay home and us commuters didn't have to commute in just to sit in a crash pad. The whole time I was on reserve in BOS, I saw my crash pad three times. When I held a line, I dropped it completely. Never had a crashpad in JFK for the same reason. Reserve here, for the most part, goes either super senior or junior. I think the guys in the middle live more than a 2 hour drive (or right on the edge of it with traffic) from the airport. Lots of guys live on the beach, and if you get caught in traffic, you're pushing it on that 2 hour call out. The guys that live in town, though, normally bid reserve or day trips. Although, looking at next month, guys are gonna come unglued since there's only about 3 day trips and red eyes. Everything else is multi-day trips for the 190 down here. I'm bidding for a line next month a) because the bid divisors are actually in the 80s rather than the mid-high 70s and b) I'm bored. Now, whether I get it or not is another thing.....

Ask @ZapBrannigan about reserve at jetblue vs SWA. He'll tell ya all about it.
 
To shift the topic to RAH for a sec, when the last TA was released it had LCR in it (which we don't currently have). Which was nice, but there was zero req's for the company to use it. Our FA's voted for it in they're latest contract with the same problem, no req's to use it. Sure enough, last week a memo came down from Ops saying, "due to a high volume of last minute call offs, LCR will no longer be utilized."
A certain number of our lines have to be built as LCR.

I'm actually in favor of everyone being on LCR, then converting people as necessary to provide the utter minimum short call reserve coverage, but that's not something that we're likely to do anytime soon (and they're not likely to make me the Manager, Crew Support either!).
 
Senior reserve can be a great duty. Long Call is the greatest thing since sliced bread where I work, especially if you don't have to commute to it. With our systemwide staffing the way it is, too, nobody's allowed to drop...so here I sit.

Interesting.

LCR on the RJ is either junk 4 day trips or bits and pieces, SAN turns they let lineholders drop, exc. I worked more days and credited less on LCR as opposed to RE1/2. Swinging back and forth between AM and PM assignments, Midnight-2AM calls to convert, exc. I was downright burned out.
 
Interesting.

LCR on the RJ is either junk 4 day trips or bits and pieces, SAN turns they let lineholders drop, exc. I worked more days and credited less on LCR as opposed to RE1/2. Swinging back and forth between AM and PM assignments, Midnight-2AM calls to convert, exc. I was downright burned out.
I have detected the source of the problem. Different airline over here, man.
 
That is the truth.
One leg LAX-MCI, DFW/etc. a day does sound really good sometimes (and will happen eventually), but for now I'm going to stay put, just because of what you describe. We're actually overstaffed on the Brasilia all of a sudden (sort of, anyway), so while my reassignment to the reserve ranks is not voluntary, it's still going to be great duty.

And since I hardly ever break guarantee on this airplane on reserve, I'll fly to SAN twice this month and collect my 76 hours, and do all the other things I've meant to do.
 
Most of the LARJ flying is closer to what you do, Eagle and most Delta 7/9 trips are a bunch of legs. The easy UAL 700 trips are pretty rare, at least for LA.
 
Sure enough, last week a memo came down from Ops saying, "due to a high volume of last minute call offs, LCR will no longer be utilized."

If there wasn't a punitive sick call policy I'm sure people would have no problem calling in early enough for LCR to be utilized. If you call in 12 hours prior though they'll start giving you the runaround about "How can you know you'll be sick tomorrow!?"
 
One question comes to mind after reading the EtD document:

If a competitively-qualified person has previously put in a stand-alone app to Delta…but has not interviewed Delta yet…and then gets hired by Endeavor under this EtD program, does he forfeit his ability to continue pursuing an interview/employment with Delta as an independent candidate outside (and in addition to) the EtD program ?

Will Delta consider this person "untouchable" outside the EtD umbrella...and because of it ?

This would prevent a person from potentially (theoretically) shortening the timeline to Delta by being stuck in the EtD pipeline.

I see the document addresses the case of a person who HAS previously been interviewed by Delta and then seeks employment with Endeavor. But what I'm asking about is a different situation and I don't think I see it addressed. Do any of you ?
 
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If there wasn't a punitive sick call policy I'm sure people would have no problem calling in early enough for LCR to be utilized. If you call in 12 hours prior though they'll start giving you the runaround about "How can you know you'll be sick tomorrow!?"

Yeah, to say our FAs are abused is an understatement.
 
@amorris311 thanks obama for the lousy contract. And APA and Usapa for not fixing it in the MOU.
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