Endeavor Flow for new hires

[derg]

But you get to fly sweet, sweet jets with engines slung under the wings.

 

[Rocketman99]

[No opinion of this matter implied or expressed]

Don't know who. Being able to read both versions of the announcement would be helpful to those without access to the company websites.

I thought perhaps there was more than one version of the announcement since the statement in quotes in post #77 doesn't appear in the DL version of the memo. The language addressing the same concept isn't as fuzzy from Dickson. And words will be important when the dust settles.

There are several versions of the announcement. The one passed along to current 9E pilots was only a vague overview and the bullet points. The specifics of what is required to flow up (2 years as CA, 3 failures, etc) are outlined in a much longer form pdf you can look at yourself on the public www.endeavorair.com website under careers&job postings> pilots>learn more about the Etd>download document details. (Un)Happy reading.

 

[derg]

There are several versions of the announcement. The one passed along to current 9E pilots was only a vague overview and the bullet points. The specifics of what is required to flow up (2 years as CA, 3 failures, etc) are outlined in a much longer form pdf you can look at yourself on the public www.endeavorair.com website under careers&job postings> pilots>learn more about the Etd>download document details. (Un)Happy reading.

You've got mail, brb.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

Is it like this?

 

[Rocketman99]

You've got mail, brb.

Aroo?

 

[derg]

Aroo?

You didn't get an email from me?

 

[Rocketman99]

Not yet...

 

[derg]

st…somethingorrather@yahoo?

 

[Rocketman99]

Mmmmhmm. Still nothing.

 

[ASpilot2be]

Did you turn it off and turn it back on again.

 

[undsioux1]

http://www.endeavorair.com/pilots.html

If you scroll down there is a place for both Endeavor AND Delta pilots to fill out a recommendation for a new-hire pilot. Special.

 

[Roger Roger]

Did you turn it off and turn it back on again.

Your cd tray is not a cup holder.

 

[derg]

Mmmmhmm. Still nothing.

Dagblasted mailserver is screwing up again. BRB.

 

[BobDDuck]

Donatelli says it was "unilateral by Delta Management"

Not trying to be rude or anything, but... duh. Of course it was. I'd guess he found out the same way everybody else did. That wasn't the point I was trying to make. A 12,000 member pilot group carries a pretty big stick when they want to. I'd HOPE that this is something that the MEC deems is stick shaking worthy as it directly effects a segment of their (your) union.

I'm not holding my breath though. We are much more of an Association than a Union.

 

[bafanguy]

There are several versions of the announcement. you can look at yourself on the public www.endeavorair.com website

Thank you, Sir. Got it. Fortunately, I'm not looking for a job...nor is any job looking for ME !! Just watchin' the world go by from the Peanut Gallery.

Life is pretty good.

 

[L-16B]

An entire new hire class recently at SWA was nothing but military. I'm beginning to wonder whether they just can't get civilian guys anymore because word has gotten out that upgrades and decent schedules don't come for decades. A recent ALPA poll of all FFD carrier pilots showed that only half of the pilots would even consider going to SWA. Delta was somewhere around 90%.

Is it true they get 15-16 days off on reserve though?

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

Is it true they get 15-16 days off on reserve though?

Yes. But don't let that fool you. We're talking major airlines, here, not regionals, so it's a different game than you're used to. Most major airlines have a ton of work rules to make reserve bearable. The guys sitting long call reserve at Delta may get 23 days at home because they're not getting called, while SWA has only short call, so you're either flying or sitting around in domicile in a crash pad or hotel during all of your reserve days. Except for the min days off, reserve work rules are nonexistent at SWA.

 

[L-16B]

Yes. But don't let that fool you. We're talking major airlines, here, not regionals, so it's a different game than you're used to. Most major airlines have a ton of work rules to make reserve bearable. The guys sitting long call reserve at Delta may get 23 days at home because they're not getting called, while SWA has only short call, so you're either flying or sitting around in domicile in a crash pad or hotel during all of your reserve days. Except for the min days off, reserve work rules are nonexistent at SWA.

True, but airways reserve go for me was 11 days off and I couldn't sit long call at home. Do the lines have to be 16 days off as well?

 

[Autothrust Blue]

I deleted it for that, and also because the mention of it makes pilots go into a frenzy. One of our IBT reps explained the full details to me today and my initial reaction was, "well that's pretty low pay but I'll admit BKK is a cheap/fun city!" Then he said it was 3500 Krona not USD, a quick use google's currency converter and I nearly threw up in my mouth.

I've thus far resisted the urge to say something smart when NorShuttle is on the frequency. We'll see how long that lasts. (They were getting lost at LAX yesterday.)

 

[derg]

Yes. But don't let that fool you. We're talking major airlines, here, not regionals, so it's a different game than you're used to. Most major airlines have a ton of work rules to make reserve bearable. The guys sitting long call reserve at Delta may get 23 days at home because they're not getting called, while SWA has only short call, so you're either flying or sitting around in domicile in a crash pad or hotel during all of your reserve days. Except for the min days off, reserve work rules are nonexistent at SWA.

Reserve, in many categories can go fairly senior.

If you want to make bank in some categories, you bid reserve and utilize the bits and pieces of a contract to maximize your time at home and pay.

If I lived in base, I would certainly sit reserve. Ask @Jimflyfast how much he's actually flown.