Emirates 777 Rough Landing in Dubai

"According to air traffic control recordings cited by Aviation Herald, a respected independent website specialising in information on air accidents, controllers at Dubai had reminded the crew of the Boeing 777 to lower the landing gear as it came into approach."

Hemmm....................
 
fiveninerzero said:
Rough landing? I'll take one for the team and call it a crash. Airplane is totaled, it's gonna be a write-off.
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As my dad used to say, "Any landing from which you can get out and piss on the fire is a good one." To heck with the airframe as long as everyone got out.
 
Dang


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Glad everyone got out okay.

Local captain and Irish F.O. from what I hear. A6-EMW was a 777-300.

Still have a lot of faith in the pilot group as a whole, but the holes in the swiss cheese lined up on this one.


Typhoonpilot
 
Nark said:
They must have been pretty tired.
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If it was a night turn, then yes. The TRV night turn is nasty. Basically a 1am pick-up from home; 3am takeoff; 4 hours there; hour plus on the ground; and 4 hours back to land around noon-1pm. I did see one report that said they had a 24 hour+ layover in TRV though so not sure.

Weather reports show 49C with WS all RWYs. The 777-300 is a pig on a good day. On a hot day it's performance is marginal at best. That's one of the reasons the airplane never really caught on and the -300ER came out. Low level decreasing performance shear in those conditions in that airplane would be a handful. Reports I'm seeing say they were trying to go-around, but settled onto the runway. Other reports say it was a hard landing and the gear collapsed. Guess we'll find out in due course.


Typhoonpilot
 
RDoug said:
As my dad used to say, "Any landing from which you can get out and piss on the fire is a good one." To heck with the airframe as long as everyone got out.
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As I've heard it said: A good landing is one you can walk away from; A great landing is one where you can use the airplane again!

This one's merely a good landing.
 
It was 49C with windshear on final. Perhaps it's something they're more accustomed to as desert pilots....

I doubt they forgot to lower the gear though....

Of course fatigue will factor in. It factors into every accident.
 
typhoonpilot said:
handful. Reports I'm seeing say they were trying to go-around, but settled onto the runway. Other reports say it was a hard landing and the gear collapsed. Guess we'll find out in due course.


Typhoonpilot
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If it was a gear up, I can see them trying to go around on ground contact but not having enough energy. If it was a hard enough landing to collapse all the gear, I'm surprised the airframe wasn't ruptured.
 
Mr. Typhoon. No need to eat crow (I had to stare at that pic for a while to figure out what it was). Professional aviators everywhere are under increasing pressure from the big corporations to do more with less to increase the profit margin for the man. I'm very grateful for my union and my contract which pushes back. If it's a safety issue, maybe this will be the wakeup call to make some changes. But no need to eat crow. You're commentary at this forum is highly appreciated by me. Many threads are hard to follow because of who I don't read on here but I always enjoy your stuff and find it educational.
 
Latest rumor I read was that they were told to go-around and raised the gear prior to positive climb rate.
 
Do civilian towers have to tell aircraft check gear down? (I've never worked in a tower). Just wondering if that's why in one of the previous posts the news said ATC had to remind them to lower the gear
 
NovemberEcho said:
Do civilian towers have to tell aircraft check gear down? (I've never worked in a tower). Just wondering if that's why in one of the previous posts the news said ATC had to remind them to lower the gear
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Negative. At least in the US, unless it is a joint use field, although I have heard it from some foreign towers.


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