Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
Hence, our new and improved go around procedure.
Emirates 777 Rough Landing in Dubai
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Gonzo
Well-Known Member
Word is the FO was a ex-pat and the CA was a local.
Der rote Baron
Well-Known Member
The FO is an Aussie and the CA is an local..... • happens
typhoonpilot
Well-Known Member
On a side note ....
That's some lucky Dude....
"As if surviving a crash-landing on an airliner wasn't enough, a Dubai-based Indian man is celebrating a $1 million lottery win just days after that terrifying experience."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/10/middleeast/dubai-emirates-survivor-lottery-win/index.html
The tickets for that cost 1000 Dirhams, or about $275/each. They sell 5000 tickets per draw so that obviously makes your chances 1 in 5000 of winning. Pretty good odds as far as lotteries go.
Pretty good business too since they are probably doing more than 1 draw/month now. Profit over $300,000 per draw. Wish I could set up a stand in an airport and do something similar
.They run similar draws for high end cars and motorcycles with lower ticket costs and fewer tickets sold. I personally know one guy who won a car and one who won a Harley.
TP
Burrito
Position And Hold My Beer
New pictures of the Emirates Triple surfaced on my Facebook today (so they're about three days old now right?)
Very few things still impress me.
The idea that everyone got off that plane gave me a good and audible "holy crap."
Link to news article with some of new photos BUT OH GOD THE SITE IS TERRIBLE.
Very few things still impress me.
The idea that everyone got off that plane gave me a good and audible "holy crap."
Link to news article with some of new photos BUT OH GOD THE SITE IS TERRIBLE.
Seggy
Well-Known Member
Skåning
Well-Known Member
https://www.gcaa.gov.ae/en/ePublica...Report, AAIS Case AIFN-0008-2016 - A6-EMW.pdf
Preliminary report from the GCAA about the accident. Long story short: long landing alert followed by go around call, mains touched and Capt pitched it up. Gear commanded up while thrust remained at idle from the flare. Plane climbed up to 85 ft and then settled back down onto the runway with gear in transit. Crunch, then thrust was commanded to TOGA.
Preliminary report from the GCAA about the accident. Long story short: long landing alert followed by go around call, mains touched and Capt pitched it up. Gear commanded up while thrust remained at idle from the flare. Plane climbed up to 85 ft and then settled back down onto the runway with gear in transit. Crunch, then thrust was commanded to TOGA.
Der rote Baron
Well-Known Member
I'm wondering if they would have gone around without the RAAS? O.K they where out of the TDZ, but still plenty of RW available
typhoonpilot
Well-Known Member
Good question, but for many years now any landing longer than 3000 feet meant a trip to the sim for remedial training as well as a chat with the chief pilot or safety folks.
TP
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
Sounds like a safe place to work.
typhoonpilot
Well-Known Member
Under the new FAA interpretation a landing longer than 500 feet past the fixed distance marker should be a bust on a type ride:
For all landings, touch down at the aiming point markings - 250' to +500' or where there are no runway aiming point markings, 750' to 1,500' from the approach threshold of the runway.
TP
Der rote Baron
Well-Known Member
O.K, that explains a lot...
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
You got a cite on that? Because putting your mains in the 1,000' marker sounds like an amazing way to drag your gear through the approach lighting system.
typhoonpilot
Well-Known Member
That is straight from the Practical Test Standards for ATP.
Putting your mains on the threshold is the way to drag gear through the approach lights. Putting them on the 1000 foot marker is what keeps them 50 feet over the threshold.
TP
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
This last PC cycle at SJI, after all is completed, time remaining, each pilot is afforded the opportunity to attempt touching down exactly on the 1000' markers. Maybe not all fleets, @PeanuckleCRJ ? Anyway, it was explained as a way to show it can be done. It does necessitate crossing the threshold at exactly 50'.
ian
Well-Known Member
during initial we had to do it at DCA iirc
PeanuckleCRJ
Poodle Wrangler
Our qual standards are "in the touchdown zone and on or near the center of runway."
The landing distance when targeting a touchdown at the 1000 foot markers is just data collection.
That's interesting you did that during IQ, @ian. What fleet are you on?
Most carriers in the US are having far more issues with visual approaches (low altitude events, unstabilized approaches and so on)
The landing distance when targeting a touchdown at the 1000 foot markers is just data collection.
That's interesting you did that during IQ, @ian. What fleet are you on?
Most carriers in the US are having far more issues with visual approaches (low altitude events, unstabilized approaches and so on)
Seggy
Well-Known Member
The best of early 1960s technology today!
Oh wait, y'all have the DC9-80 and the 737s so I need to clarify. The 737.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Has Emirates fired these guys? The most telling of things will be how Emirates decides to handle this incident.