Ya know, Jtrain609, you can rip people all you want. You and a couple of others are missing a fundamental problem here. This guy was supposed to be the poster child for all that is holy. He was supposed to be the first on many that were to make people believe in something.
Listen boss, let's see if we can't straighten you out. Jesus? He was holy. Abraham? Most likely holy. Muhammad? Holy. The Buddha? Holy too. Tim? He's a regional airline first officer. The fact that you're holding this guy up to the standard of being a god among men is the first problem. Nobody was doing that in the first place, it's only after the fact when people see an opportunity to go in for the kill that they do so. Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic strategy, but it's wrong.
Did he cook up that idea on his own? No. It came directly from the National leadership. Whose myopia was so bad that all they saw was a guy who was SO good, that they would have a home run on the first pitch.
So what you're hinting at, without saying it, is that national induced him to lie. Nice work, but again; wrong.
They blew it, and instead of admitting they didn't do their job, they are dispatching their minnions to attack anyone who dares question the King's clothier.
Minions? Seriously dude what's with the religious overtones?
For this guy to get past the hand picked committee without serious vetting is unconscionable. Why? Because it took the program that was supposed to help rebuild the public trust and destroyed it. Why should the public, whose opinion and favor were being curried, trust them after the first person they trot out is this guy?
Public trust? This is an internal union rag, not Newsweek. Again, you're blowing things out of proportion, and frankly the only thing I'm railing against here is the lunacy of your position.
Because they said so? Because it's ALPA?
Your comment's to SIUav8r were out of line, inappropriate and violate the COE as well. The fact that he may not be in an ALPA cockpit means NOTHING. You owe him the respect that you so eagerly sought as a young aviator. In fact, you owe him more.
Whatever, skipper. SIUav8er is a fine young lad, and I'm certainly glad to see him flying around at my old stomping grounds; but the fact remains that he is paying zero dues to ALPA and is thus, unrepresented. Would I like to see ALPA on Amflight property? Sure! But today it isn't a reality.
Circling the wagons does not solve the problem. Standing up and admitting the error does. Firing a writer, or having staff put out an email is gutless. Now is the time for LEADERS to stand up, admit the mistake and OWN the problem. That would go a long way. THAT will never happen.
Sure thing, skipper.
Look around you. Delta pilots are talking about leaving. So are UAL pilots. They have a multitude of reasons, but the underlying issue is lack of LEADERSHIP.
Leaving ALPA for...wait...let me guess...IBT? Don't you think that your position betrays your analysis?
If one is to assume your bio information is correct; you have no business lecturing people about their worth if they are ALPA members or not. You have the wings, so do many others. Many people here have decades of ALPA experience at many carriers, for managements you've only read about in history books. We have many strikes and many uniforms in our closets. Some have more hours on picket lines than you have in your logbook. We stood for your generation and people like SIUav8r so that you'd have something to step into. You have no right to lecture on those subjects.
Sure thing.
For the benefit of you and you other friends here who have decided to try and blame others, I'll offer you this to consider.
Many years ago I made a great friend when I was a young kid pumping avgas. Bill was a United Captain. His career began in radials and ended as a 777 Check Captain. His shoelaces had more experience than most people.
I was on his jumpseat coming home on day by chance before he retired. The F/O, with his four years of experience, was intent on not only regaling me with his vast knowledge of the airplane, but all about ALPA. His knowledge of the Eastern strike filled volumes. After about 30 minutes, my friend looked at the kid and offered him a blunt suggestion. It went something like this:
"You need to quit talking, quit pushing buttons, sit on your hands, shut up and listen. Not only do you not have a clue about what you're doing with this plane, you're talking to someone who was an ALPA rep at Eastern and has forgotten more than you'll ever know."
There are a lot of people here who not only have been there and have the T shirt...they own the T shirt company.
Do yourself a favor. There are a lot of smart people out there at non ALPA carriers and affiliated with other unions...APA, IPA, SWAPA and yes, IBT. Take the time to get your facts straight.
It will serve you well in your career.
The person, and the attitude, that you're holding up is the antithesis of professionalism that you are attempting to lecture about. You don't care about professionalism from what I can see; you care about being in charge.
As for me, I won't be asking you "how high" anytime soon.
Have a good one.
EDIT: Oh and BTW, I don't have a career; I have a furlough. I could take being on the street the same way you did, and be pissed at the world and direct my venom at ALPA, or I could move on and do something constructive with my time, and with my life. Right now, I'm choosing to use my time wisely instead of being angry at ALPA for my job being gone.
