Electronic charts for iPad

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

Like I said, I'm fairly certain that we are allowed to substitute or manuals for it. But I'll have to look it up. It might be back in the galley, but I fairly certain it's not in the cockpit. There aren't to many hiding places in the front end of a CRJ. Hello me out here ASA guys.

It's almost certainly in the back of your FOM (or equivalent manual). That's where it's been at the three airlines I worked. I baffles me that you aren't familiar with them. Your initial oral should have had questions about C055 and C079. Your checkairman wasn't doing his job if he didn't check your knowledge of those.

 

[mshunter]

It's almost certainly in the back of your FOM (or equivalent manual). That's where it's been at the three airlines I worked. I baffles me that you aren't familiar with them. Your initial oral should have had questions about C055 and C079. Your checkairman wasn't doing his job if he didn't check your knowledge of those.

That's what I've been saying. I think we allowed to use our FOM in its place.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

That's what I've been saying. I think we allowed to use our FOM in its place.

I'm pretty sure that's not legal.

 

[mshunter]

I'm pretty sure that's not legal.

Just spoke with a captain who was in the same hotel I stayed at last night over breakfast. We don't have the legit opspecs in our airplanes. Our manuals have all the pertinent info from or opspecs in them, so we aren't required to have a copy in the airplane, but there has be a way available to us to access them. So, there is a copy in every base in the CP's office, and they are hidden in a dark corner of our online manuals.

Edit to add: There isn't an official "Opspecs" tab, because the info is spread throughout the entire set of manuals.

 

[Cptnchia]

Just spoke with my instructor bud at ASA. Mshunter is correct. Pertinent sections of the OpSpecs, like C055 and C079, are in the FOM, but they don't carry the full OpSpec anymore.

 

[ppragman]

Just spoke with my instructor bud at ASA. Mshunter is correct. Pertinent sections of the OpSpecs, like C055 and C079, are in the FOM, but they don't carry the full OpSpec anymore.

Well, I'll be damned. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard! That's honestly probably a much better way to do things than having to try to reference multiple books if you have a question, but I'm very surprised the FAA signed off on that.

 

[KLB]

Some airlines need to get with times and put all pertinent documents on the Ipad or whatever tablet/notebook they use and be done with it.

 

[ppragman]

Ok, so pull out your NOS plates. What is the lowest takeoff mins in ANC on 7R authorized by your opspecs? What if the HIRL is out? What if the center line lights are out? Is the runway standard to begin with?
This is daily operational knowledge that I can't do my job without. I don't see how you guys do.

Between the OpSpecs, looking out the window, and the NOS charts you have everything you need to know to takeoff. It's not as convenient as the Jepps, and it's not easy to figure out in advance if you'd be able to leave from a particular airport, but there's nothing I can see in the OpSpec (and after I had to go flying again, I spent some time digging through it) that cannot be figured out.

 

[mshunter]

Some airlines need to get with times and put all pertinent documents on the Ipad or whatever tablet/notebook they use and be done with it.

I think they are all trying. It's the FAA bureaucracy that's jamming things up. I think it's pretty safe to say a tablet isn't going to bring an airplane down. It's the feds that need to get with the program.

 

[Landis]

Back to the original question: WingX is currently offering free subscriptions to CFIs. It's pretty much like the much loved ForeFlight. More of a Windows/Mac or Nikon/Canon (or Jepp/NOS) comparison. Lots of capability in WingX but perhaps a little less intuitive/pretty than ForeFlight. Of course, it's a pretty darn good deal for free.