Electronic charts for iPad

There is no centerline lighting here, so 1800rvr is it for everyone.
Yes, but operations limited to SE Alaska is not my point. How do I go to an airport I've never been to before - KGPI, KGJT, PAOM, and look at the chart and figure out what RVR I can take off at on which runway? 2 Pilots and authorized to 6/6/6.
If I had jepps in front of me I'd find good examples. I do not.
 
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I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. What about the reduced vis takeoff requirements in the front of the NOS charts? Quick rundown of the C079?

Edit to add: Two of the the 135 outfits I've worked for used government plates. But that was a while ago, and I had to memory dump that stuff to make room for all the 121 stuff.
Look up C079 in your 121 ops specs. It'll be word for word the same thing with the only exception the part in the box where they list your lowest authorized takeoff mins.
 
IOr do you need two devices and two subscriptions to be legal paperless. Probably depends on the inspector.
If you follow the AC, I think the inspector wouldn't have a problem. As Capt. Chaos said, Ipad falls under different category than your gmx. In the latter AC they provide the steps for authorizing specific devices.
 
Even part 91? Sorry, I haven't flown turbine aircraft part 91 since EFB's came out so this is all pretty new to me.
If you follow the AC, I think the inspector wouldn't have a problem. As Capt. Chaos said, Ipad falls under different category than your gmx. In the latter AC they provide the steps for authorizing specific devices.

Well Part 91 is a different game, grab a iPad, Foreflight and go fly.
 
Yes, but operations limited to SE Alaska is not my point. How do I go to an airport I've never been to before - KGPI, KGJT, PAOM, and look at the chart and figure out what RVR I can take off at on which runway? 2 Pilots and authorized to 6/6/6.
If I had jepps in front of me I'd find good examples. I do not.
It's not the plates I needed.. Had to read the 2 pilot stuff in FSIMS, which looks like a Pain to try and figure out without a cheat sheet. Need to know the if there is high intensity edge lighting, centerline, how many Rvr sensors, is there center way lighting on the taxi way etc. It could be done but not like glancing at a jepp chart and having it all there. I'll stick with the easy single pilot ops.
 
Well Part 91 is a different game, grab a iPad, Foreflight and go fly.
Thanks, the part I missed under 91f is the turbojet definition, meaning a turboprop (under 12.5k lbs) should be exempt from those requirements since it's not part of a fractional and privately owned and operated.
 
It's not the plates I needed.. Had to read the 2 pilot stuff in FSIMS, which looks like a Pain to try and figure out without a cheat sheet. Need to know the if there is high intensity edge lighting, centerline, how many Rvr sensors, is there center way lighting on the taxi way etc. It could be done but not like glancing at a jepp chart and having it all there. I'll stick with the easy single pilot ops.
It's not in the approach plates and not in the AF/D, so I'm not really sure where you'd find it.
 
Look up C079 in your 121 ops specs. It'll be word for word the same thing with the only exception the part in the box where they list your lowest authorized takeoff mins.

That's a pain in the ass. It requires a trip to the chiefs office. We don't have easy access to that info.
 
Haha, um well you have to have it every time you fly so, it shouldn't be too hard to find.
Here's a copy I found with google - http://fsims.faa.gov/wdocs/notices/n8900_38.htm

I vaguely remember something from initial that or OM, or FOM, or both satisfy that requirement. You'd be hard pressed to find an opspec in most 121 cockpits. I've never seen one. If have to look through it to see for sure. But everything I've seen just skimming through that, I can find it in the NOS charts. What are the non part 97 approaches you're taking about?
 
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I vaguely remember something from initial that or OM, or FOM, or both satisfy that requirement. You'd be hard pressed to find an opspec in most 121 cockpits. I've never seen one.

Huh? I've never flown 121 without a copy of the opspecs.
 
Huh? I've never flown 121 without a copy of the opspecs.

Unless it's hiding somewhere in the airplane, I've never even seen ours. Don't think I've ever seen a copy in anything I've commuted on either. I could be wrong about seeing it commuting, but I know it's not in our cockpit.
 
I vaguely remember something from initial...
This blows my mind.


What are the non part 97 approaches you're taking about?
They're approaches that mostly have been built be private entities and are not available to the public and hence not published in Part 97. You have to have authorization(C081) to use them and be trained on them. Usually it's substantially lower minimums than a published approach. The best example is Alaska's RNP approaches into Juneau.
 
Unless it's hiding somewhere in the airplane, I've never even seen ours. Don't think I've ever seen a copy in anything I've commuted on either. I could be wrong about seeing it commuting, but I know it's not in our cockpit.
It's there. You might want to find it on your next flight since it's a required document. You also need a working knowledge of a few key opspecs to work for a certificated carrier. I know 121 really holds your hand, but IME, you need to be able to check the dispatcher. C055(and 3585) and C079 are fairly important even if they are not used every day.
 
It's there. You might want to find it on your next flight since it's a required document. You also need a working knowledge of a few key opspecs to work for a certificated carrier. I know 121 really holds your hand, but IME, you need to be able to check the dispatcher. C055(and 3585) and C079 are fairly important even if they are not used every day.

Like I said, I'm fairly certain that we are allowed to substitute or manuals for it. But I'll have to look it up. It might be back in the galley, but I fairly certain it's not in the cockpit. There aren't to many hiding places in the front end of a CRJ. Hello me out here ASA guys.
 
Unless it's hiding somewhere in the airplane, I've never even seen ours. Don't think I've ever seen a copy in anything I've commuted on either. I could be wrong about seeing it commuting, but I know it's not in our cockpit.
If you've ever jumpseated on a Delta plane, there was two copies, one in each shipset. Now, there is a PDF in each pilot's EFB. Even back in the day at ASA, we were required to carry a copy.
 
Like I said, I'm fairly certain that we are allowed to substitute or manuals for it. But I'll have to look it up. It might be back in the galley, but I fairly certain it's not in the cockpit. There aren't to many hiding places in the front end of a CRJ. Hello me out here ASA guys.
Let me call my bud, who is an instructor at ASA. He'll know where it is. He might also want to know what pilot doesn't know where to find it!
 
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