Eagle "thrown under the bus"? You decide.

Derg said:
This is me: A regional buddy: "Isn't that an XJ flight number?" "Who? Express Jet?" "Are you an idiot?" "Do you know how many gosh damned regionals there are? I don't even know the door code to my own pilot lounge, like I'm going to memorize some <expletive deleted> like that." :) #actuallyhappenedbro
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So what you're saying is, there is ignorance about the internals of this industry - in both the regional and mainline pilot groups?
 
surreal1221 said:
So what you're saying is, there is ignorance about the internals of this industry - in both the regional and mainline pilot groups?
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I personally can't be arsed to remember our door codes especially since they change every (TSA-mandated) days. Usually I'm stuck up top of the jetway making wild hand signals. ;)

Regarding ignorance about the business itself, considering how downright terrible pilots are at money, is that really a huge surprise?
 
BobDDuck said:
AOA/SIDA swipe pads are a wonderful thing.
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Maybe, but only sort of. In fact, I'd describe how things are physical security/access control wise right now as "bad."

It blows my mind that we don't participate in TWIC and that our pictures aren't on our certificates. It further blows my mind that every 'little' airport has their own security badging office and their own formats, policies, procedures, and standards for issuing, revoking, etc. badges, that they all have their own little fiefdoms and their own (probably incompatible) prox card readers and sometimes biometric systems. Every airline has its own credentials...and so on.

The net result is that the system is cumbersome, decentralized and not available everywhere. I'd like to be able to have one badge that'll unlock all the doors I need (jetbridges from Portland to Palm Springs, crew rooms, AOA/SIDA entry points, and so on), which in terms of technology is perfectly achievable - but because of politics and fiefdoms, is an impossibility.

But yes, they can be wonderful things, you're correct!
 
Autothrust Blue said:
I personally can't be arsed to remember our door codes especially since they change every (TSA-mandated) days. Usually I'm stuck up top of the jetway making wild hand signals. ;) Regarding ignorance about the business itself, considering how downright terrible pilots are at money, is that really a huge surprise?
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Meh...the door codes don't change THAT often.

Store the codes in your phone as a contact. #winning
 
surreal1221 said:
So what you're saying is, there is ignorance about the internals of this industry - in both the regional and mainline pilot groups?
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I wouldn't classify my lack of knowledge about whose acronyms mean what as "industry ignorance" -- I classify it as having bigger global fish to fry than who Republic bought and what they named them to get around who's scope clause.

I don't hold the idea that knowing that Frontier = F9 is any more or less important than knowing Charles De Gaulle isn't CDG, but LFPG.
 
PhilosopherPilot said:
JetBlue has an ACARS request that you can send to get the door code of the city you are in. Best use ever for ACARS.

Still, I end up at the top of the JetBridge doing the hand jive a few times a month...
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They're printed on our rotations.

Sadly, when one of my fellow coworkers landed themselves in a hill of trouble, some "overly helpful to the media pilot" who leaked a copy of his rotation to CNN, in exchange for something like topless photos of Erin Burnett, ended up publicizing the door codes for a number of airports on worldwide television.
 
I know I should worry about the SSI nature of door codes... But I will once the following gets taken care of:

Ground crew clearly using fingers to indicate the numbers, in front of the terminal window

Gate agents telling me the "door code is 1234!" while passengers are milling about awaiting gate checked luggage. How about just discreetly type it in???
 
BobDDuck said:
Until said phone gets lost and the feds come after you for potential breach of SSI information. #askmehowiknow
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Ok.

Don't lose your phone.

I welcome the Feds coming after me because I have ORF Jetway as a contact...lol
 
Derg said:
They're printed on our rotations.

Sadly, when one of my fellow coworkers landed themselves in a hill of trouble, some "overly helpful to the media pilot" who leaked a copy of his rotation to CNN, in exchange for something like topless photos of Erin Burnett, ended up publicizing the door codes for a number of airports on worldwide television.
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Pleaaaase. I've seen door codes on releases. Most of the explanatory stuff in aviation (that we argue about and claim to be the encyclopedia of) can be found in "Everything Explained". Midwest Express ceased to exist years before TPG bought and sold them to RAH. It was Midwest Airlines. I'm actually kinda stunned the name "Air Midwest" hasn't been mistakenly thrown around in this thread, yet. Actually, that's kinda rude of me. You guys are much sharper than that, lol.
 
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