DOT Sec Buttigieg: Domestic Testing Being Seriously Considered

If a prospective passenger tests positive, will the air carrier be required to refund their fare?
 
Stupid!
This virus is weird. A person can be exposed to the virus, test neg three days later and then show symptoms a few days after that! A test is merely a snapshot of that particular moment in time....l.nothing more.
 
Stupid!
This virus is weird. A person can be exposed to the virus, test neg three days later and then show symptoms a few days after that! A test is merely a snapshot of that particular moment in time....l.nothing more.
It’s uh, it’s not really that weird at all. But to a degree, I don’t see the utility except maybe cases like Alaska and Hawaii where that’s the only point of entry. Like what good does it do in the lower 48? Especially since masking and the air filtration SEEMS to do a pretty decent job in-flight.

Anyway, by the time they figure it out immunity by infection and by vaccination will have covid numbers in free fall and it’ll be mostly irrelevant.
 
It’s worth a shot because right now, doing nothing isn’t helping pax numbers.
The best thing would be if we can prove that vaccinated people are less likely to spread COVID, which seems likely to be the case. Follow that with doubling down on vaccination. We’ll also have immunity by infection and seasonal effects kicking in fairly soon to further drive numbers down.
 
Let's see. Jam a swab up my nose twice or enjoy a two day car drive each way for an upcoming medical trip ...

I'd be driving. Through a blizzard. Both ways. And not care if y'all go bankrupt.

Sorry. Shrug.
 
Let's see. Jam a swab up my nose twice or enjoy a two day car drive each way for an upcoming medical trip ...

I'd be driving. Through a blizzard. Both ways. And not care if y'all go bankrupt.

Sorry. Shrug.

Yep.

What an idiot.

“Implements domestic testing requirements “

WHY ARE THE AIRLINES ASKING FOR MORE BAILOUTS?1!1!?1!1?1?
 
It’s uh, it’s not really that weird at all. But to a degree, I don’t see the utility except maybe cases like Alaska and Hawaii where that’s the only point of entry. Like what good does it do in the lower 48? Especially since masking and the air filtration SEEMS to do a pretty decent job in-flight.

Anyway, by the time they figure it out immunity by infection and by vaccination will have covid numbers in free fall and it’ll be mostly irrelevant.

Actually, as far as viruses go, it is very weird. That's saying a lot, considering viruses are tricky things that have different behaviors and characteristics even within their own families. The virus seems to behave in some ways we haven't seen before and our body's immune response seems to be strangely unique as well. A big reason is because it is a novel variant and we're still figuring a lot of things out. It will take a few years before we truly have a well-rounded understanding of it.
Let's see. Jam a swab up my nose twice or enjoy a two day car drive each way for an upcoming medical trip ...

I'd be driving. Through a blizzard. Both ways. And not care if y'all go bankrupt.

Sorry. Shrug.
Yeah, this. Doesn't take an expert to realize this will have a devastating impact on air travel. The primary reason people aren't traveling right now is fear of testing at origin, fear of quarantine, and simply being unable to due to local restrictions. Now imagine domestic air travel becomes restricted to testing, people just don't want to deal with it.
 
Nothing really to base a strong opinion on here. No details, no plans.

So... I guess I support DoT "considering" domestic testing because they should be considering all options for containing the pandemic and ensuring a safe travel environment. Hard to know if something is a good idea or not if you don't seriously consider it. Get back to me when there's a plan. Or when they say, "We considered it and rejected the idea due to X, Y, and Z."

My gut feeling is that any version of domestic testing is too little, too late, for the current outbreak. Policy process, rollout, vendor and consumer education; by the time that's all ready the facts on the ground should be very different. But, by the same token, going through the policy process--even for something that ultimately isn't used--would be a productive exercise in preparation for future pandemics.

...or in case the global community has screwed up this pandemic response so badly that a novel variant is already lurking and ready to hit the reset button on everything.
 
Let's see. Jam a swab up my nose twice or enjoy a two day car drive each way for an upcoming medical trip ...

I'd be driving. Through a blizzard. Both ways. And not care if y'all go bankrupt.

Sorry. Shrug.
The test itself is really easy. It's all the bullcrap around the test that is difficult: Find one. No, the other one. That's not the right kind. When are my results ready? That's not fast enough. OK, if I go find a field in Maine with a big oak tree and a rock wall I'll find a volcanic rock with a test hidden under it that can be processed fast enough? Great. Oh, you'll pray for me. That's sweet.

The beauty of rural life.
 
Whether or not I agree with the policy, it only makes sense that status quo isn't doing anything to help the situation. Is anyone really surprised that a new administration will be taking a different approach to the pandemic? We all know that phrase about doing the same thing expecting different results.
 
The test itself is really easy. It's all the bullcrap around the test that is difficult: Find one. No, the other one. That's not the right kind. When are my results ready? That's not fast enough. OK, if I go find a field in Maine with a big oak tree and a rock wall I'll find a volcanic rock with a test hidden under it that can be processed fast enough? Great. Oh, you'll pray for me. That's sweet.

The beauty of rural life.
If it makes you feel any better, I tried to get self/dad an RT-PCR prior to duty in California in November and, well, forget it. Neither of us, to our knowledge, had been exposed, but it was something the client asked for; we wound up calling him and explaining “no dice.”
 
Whether or not I agree with the policy, it only makes sense that status quo isn't doing anything to help the situation. Is anyone really surprised that a new administration will be taking a different approach to the pandemic? We all know that phrase about doing the same thing expecting different results.

Last time I checked US cases are dropping. Be it seasonality, vaccine rollout, all of the above...

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