Don't read your C172 manuals on American...

You should be allowed to read what you want. If I want to read the Communist Manifesto, or Mein Kampf, it should be my right. In fact, it IS my right.

Yeah, I get your rights. I know you know about the T-shirt problems, and stopping passengers from "reading" or displaying sexually offensive material where their seatmates could see. One guy was a pathologist and was going over his work which was pictures of dissected, nude bodies. He had his "right" to that restricted until back on the ground. I would guess that if someone pulled out an illustrated copy of How to Hijack an Airliner and Fly It Into a Building paperback version, then they might have some splainin' to do. It's pretty amazing how many "rights" get restricted by deciding you want to exercise the "right" to travel through the air in a narrow aluminum tube with dozens or hundreds of strangers.

However, to detain military personnel of friendly foreign governments for hours while questioning them about the manuals of the aircraft they are being trained on is ridiculous. You do agree on that, don't you?

Of course not. I think you are admitting facts not in evidence. Not sure they detained them for hours of questioning about their manuals. I had that happen to me, but it was an FAA oral. If the story is right it took them about 3 hours to confirm they weren't a security problem. A bit slow maybe. But I don't see where there's a problem checking these guys out.

It brings to mind the story about how the TSA or FAA rejected a German fighter pilots request to fly his glider. This German was flying around in a foreign supersonic fighter with missiles and cannon, yet his application to fly his glider was rejected.

Hey, I'm not saying these guys are rocket scientists. They are government bureaucrats after all. Besides I'm more concerned about these:
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/09/060509055355.jjazoykq.html

I am all for security measures that will actually do something to make us more secure, such as explosive detection puffers and screening cargo to make sure there are no bombs. What I am not for are things like this, which take away time and energy that could be focused on real threats.

Well I guess everyone can't be so sanguine about 9/11 style attacks never happening again because "they are too smart" for that. The fact is that the worst attack on our own soil was carried out by boarding groups of arab muslims on airplanes and using them for missles. 3,000 people died. It seems pretty stupid to me to put that little piece of information in the "glad that won't happen again" file and do nothing.

I'm a big critic of government in general and the TSA. But I have a feeling that with you they can't ever do anything right. And the worse sin seems to be that someone might get delayed or (gasp) profiled. It will probably take the nuke attack but I imagine the time is coming that even you will stop worrying about hurting someone's feelings.
 
Here's what I don't get. If these guys pulled off the plane were black, the NAACP would be all over it. Since they were of Arabic-ish nationality, it's okay in the eyes of the public. I'm not saying the terraists are not going to hijack planes again, but with the hightened public awareness against Arabs, they'll probably use people of a lighter skin. You know, the ones that no one would question if they were reading flying materials on a plane. As it is right now, you might not be able to get someone of Arab descent on the plane with what was needed, but a white guy could stroll on with next to no questions asked. That is unless he's 6'2" with a shaved head carrying a copy of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich." Oh wait, that's when the TSA stopped ME.
 
kellwolf said:
Here's what I don't get. If these guys pulled off the plane were black, the NAACP would be all over it. Since they were of Arabic-ish nationality, it's okay in the eyes of the public. I'm not saying the terraists are not going to hijack planes again, but with the hightened public awareness against Arabs, they'll probably use people of a lighter skin. You know, the ones that no one would question if they were reading flying materials on a plane. As it is right now, you might not be able to get someone of Arab descent on the plane with what was needed, but a white guy could stroll on with next to no questions asked. That is unless he's 6'2" with a shaved head carrying a copy of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich." Oh wait, that's when the TSA stopped ME.

Did you just watch FlightPlan too,I want 98 mins of my life back!
 
i always travel with approach charts and poh's in my bag.. duh..

i also tie a red head band around my head to help clear my ears.

i also find that reciting the koran helps me concentrate.

never had any problems with skybabysitters, f/a's or anyone.
 
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