Do you kick the jumpseater off the plane

I too keep a lot of notes in APDL. I think everyone tries to push it off on crews because we are the last ones to be in contact with the company. It is always amazing too how bad mx or the gate can twist or invent facts.
 
kellwolf said:
Airline Pilot Daily Logbook. It's a program that syncs with Logbook Pro. Just input your data in your handheld (Treo, etc) and it puts it in LBP when you get back home.
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That must be nice...I have LBP but didn't pay attention to APDL because I am in a Baron.
 
braunpilot said:
That must be nice...I have LBP but didn't pay attention to APDL because I am in a Baron.
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Yeah, honestly APDL doesn't do much for you unless you're in a 121 environment. It's saved my butt a couple of times on rest issues when scheduling attempted to add more flying on. "You can't do that. Says here that I'm scheduled to fly 9:45 minutes in a 24 hour period of time. If you tack that extra out and back on, I would have required more than the RR I got last night, thus making it illegal. Huh? Okay, don't worry about it. Got it." :)
 
LBP is till the best logbook software program out there that I know of. I was happy when I got it. I haven't decided what to do once I fill the paper logbook but I know it will happen sometime within the next decade.
 
braunpilot said:
What is APDL? Obviously a data link.
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Click on the link in my signature...

3rd product down.

braunpilot said:
LBP is till the best logbook software program out there that I know of. I was happy when I got it. I haven't decided what to do once I fill the paper logbook but I know it will happen sometime within the next decade.
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It is up to you but Logbook Pro sells special paper and binders to print and bind your Logbook. You then technically wouldn't need your old logs except to prove endorsements. Or you could scan the endorsements and print them on an endorsement page. Click on the link in my signature and scroll down to the Cirrus binders.

You can PM for more specific info...I have been using their product for over 11 years now and love it.
 
Bandit_Driver said:
It is up to you but Logbook Pro sells special paper and binders to print and bind your Logbook. You then technically wouldn't need your old logs except to prove endorsements. Or you could scan the endorsements and print them on an endorsement page. Click on the link in my signature and scroll down to the Cirrus binders.
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Done that. Part of me actually is not doing that just because I want to fill one book up prior to starting a non-computerized lookbook. Who knows? But I hope to finish that soon.

Bandit_Driver said:
You can PM for more specific info...I have been using their product for over 11 years now and love it.
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If I have any questions later I will. Thanks for the info. I love the product as well. Makes life soo much easier.

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If we let a jump on instead of a revenue passenger that would be a carpet dance for sure. Thank god for summer weights, eh?
 
SpiraMirabilis said:
Lately we've been having a problem with gate agents marking us weight restricted just at random. They'll say we're restricted to 35 passengers when we really could take 37, a jump and almost 1500lbs of bags.

Just the other day one of our jumps managed to somehow convince the gate agent to let him come down to talk to us and we managed to not only get him on but fill the remaining seats with other standbys (we did have to move 2 carry ons from the baggage compartment to the overheads, but no prob!)
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Was this out of DEN? I've done that exact same thing... asked the agents and badged out myself. CA had no idea they thought you guys were weight restricted!
 
I'm gonna side with Velo on this one. I would never take a jumpseater over a revenue passenger. Never EVER EVER EVER EVER. That is just wrong in my book. Whether I come back to the gate and open the door for any type of sole is the question. If that door is open to a jumpseater, it's open to a passenger, period.
 
Bumblebee said:
Although I love to help our fellow crewmwmbers, if I can get a revenue passenger on, then that's who goes. If I returned to the gate to let revs off then we can take that many revs on, but I would not remove someone already on who wants to stay on. I always work the weights and have told the gate we can take another person and if they say it's closed, I have told them to put the delay on me, because I have NEVER been questioned about a crew delay.

Once in FAT I had two seats left and a family of 6 who wanted to ride together and did not want to split up. We also had an FO and FA who wanted to JS to SFO. I told the gate to let our 2 on if the family was not going to take the seats. The gate said they could not put nonrev in front of passengers, I said fine send me 2 passengers, they said that the passengers didn't want to split up . . . I said fine send me the crew members, the gate said they could not put the non revs on before the paying customers, this conversation happened THREE times!
I said OK, I got out of the plane, walked into the terminal and went to the father of the group and introduced myself as the captain and that we had two seats, and would anyone from his family like to go now to SFO, he said no. I then pointed out our two crewmwmbers standing by the gate and asked him if he would have a problem with me filling those seats with my crewmembers, (of course he said no) I looked at the gate agent and said, "put those two on my airplane." So they did. But it was incredibly stupid to have to go through all of that to achieve some common sense.
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Dale, that story is BS on the gate agents part. As a guy who does the same job for the same airline as those gate agents, I can tell you they're idiots. I have been in the SAME situation probably 15-20 times where we have "x" amount of seats and a family of "y" people who won't split. In this situation, common sense says "Ok, lets fill the seats with whoever is next in line". What they told you was a flat out lie. If there is 1 seat left and 2 pax who won't split, you can sure as hell take a non-rev if they are next in line for the seat.

If I were you I would have asked to speak to the sup, seriously. These are the kind of agents that screw us over with how much we get on our bonus incentive checks because they give a wrong count and delay the flight for 10 minutes arguing with the cabin crew instead of counting the boarding passes.
 
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