Do employers use flightaware to verify flights in logbooks?

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rd757 said:
Bingo. That is the main reason a lot of corporate jets are blocked, which makes a spotters job difficult :(

RD
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Out of the 13 planes that we operate only one has it's tail # blocked. It is a wholly owned aircraft that we manage, and it almost never gets used for personal flights, and the reason that it's blocked is to prevent their competitors from seeing where they are scoping out new locations. In fact, it's a privately held company that doesn't need to worry about stockholder opinions.

You guys are just continuing a popular misconception based on...what???
 
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mikecweb said:
Why won't this ridiculous thread die?
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I know a guy that had an instructor that had a student that flew with a guy that worked at a 135 that knew a guy that went to an interview who said he knew a guy that once heard that people did this. Come on man!
 
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ChasenSFO said:
People tell me that, but I get flight following on pretty much every XC and never show up on flightaware, but my friends do, go figure.
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I was once yelled at and threatened with my job when my boss couldn't find me on a VFR XC flight because it wasn't on flightaware. I was on an active FAA Flight Plan and on Flight Following... So believe me, it doesn't always get into their system.
 
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and if you or your company block the aircraft tail number from showing up on flight aware (either by blocking vendors from releasing the # or requesting that the FAA blocks them from the vendors), then attempting to verify the flight wouldn't do them good anyway because the information just wouldn't be available.
 
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TheresaPilot said:
It's any flight that gets a squawk code.
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When I have done my cross country flights from KSFM in Sanford, ME to KRKD in Rockland, ME, I talk to Portland approach and I get a squawk, but it doesn't show up on flightaware. When I flew to KLEB in Lebanon, NH, I talked to Boston approach, then Boston center, and only the leg back showed up and it had the wrong arrival airport and the 2 were switched (I flew LEB-SFM, but it had DAW-LEB).
 
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I hear plane sense in mass, will pull FAA RAPTAR data and come after you...
 
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Makes you want to fly and old Lear 25 into that airport at night for landing practice.
 
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jynxyjoe said:
Yeah, we've all been watching your flights. We caught you.
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The walls have ears! Flightaware is a mess and kind of a joke, but if it keeps the cheaters chewing on their Parker 51s, so much the better say I. If I were a CP looking to hire, I would look up say five random IFR flights from your logbook. One missing? Fine, explain it. More than that and you're not getting hired. The smell of blood carries very far. Don't cheat and you've nothing to worry about. Throughout my career I've seen guys getting ahead who I'm pretty sure were "cutting some corners" re: time, etc. I am not at all upset that there's a way to cull out the padders, however flawed it might be. I ate untold buckets of excrement to get my experience and time, I will dance a little jig every time an entitlement-minded liar gets his come-uppence because he exhibited hubris in his cheating.
 
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I've occasionally seen on Flight Aware local flights I've done that were only practice approaches , and others that were cross country, IFR flight plans that weren't there at all, and still others that were there, but were either incomplete, or wrong.
 
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Boris Badenov said:
The walls have ears! Flightaware is a mess and kind of a joke, but if it keeps the cheaters chewing on their Parker 51s, so much the better say I. If I were a CP looking to hire, I would look up say five random IFR flights from your logbook. One missing? Fine, explain it. More than that and you're not getting hired. The smell of blood carries very far. Don't cheat and you've nothing to worry about. Throughout my career I've seen guys getting ahead who I'm pretty sure were "cutting some corners" re: time, etc. I am not at all upset that there's a way to cull out the padders, however flawed it might be. I ate untold buckets of excrement to get my experience and time, I will dance a little jig every time an entitlement-minded liar gets his come-uppence because he exhibited hubris in his cheating.
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Although I agree about cheating the system is wrong, the A/C I have flown for the last year is blocked. It's in the middle of a deep recession when many pilots are out on the street. In your eyes would this mean I am cheating the system and was actually out of a job for the year because you might find me having flown just once in a rented 172 with somebody?
 
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I personally wouldn't log any time in a plane if I knew it wasn't being tracked by flight aware. What if sometime in the future you did an interview and they tried to match up your times and it didn't match up with flightaware? You'd have some explaining to do. It just isn't worth it. Yes the odds are that they probably wouldn't but why take that chance? Its not worth it. Also, I heard the FAA sometimes uses flight aware to check against the logbook of pilots when they are rampchecked to make sure the pilots aren't logging any time illegally.
 
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butt said:
I personally wouldn't log any time in a plane if I knew it wasn't being tracked by flight aware. What if sometime in the future you did an interview and they tried to match up your times and it didn't match up with flightaware? You'd have some explaining to do. It just isn't worth it. Yes the odds are that they probably wouldn't but why take that chance? Its not worth it. Also, I heard the FAA sometimes uses flight aware to check against the logbook of pilots when they are rampchecked to make sure the pilots aren't logging any time illegally.
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Honestly that's a load of b.s. Seriously, that fact that a plane isn't being tracked by FlightAware means nothing and will get a pilot in no trouble at all. Any operator can have their N# blocked and there is nothing the FAA can do about it.

Can I block my aircraft on FlightAware? [SIZE=-1](Back To Top)[/SIZE] Yes, there are two ways to accomplish this:
  • FlightAware Selective (Un)blocking Enroll in FlightAware's selective unblocking service for a tail number that is not already blocked.
    FlightAware can process your request with next-day service and will block your operations from the general public. Your FlightAware account(s) will continue to be able to securely view and track your aircraft. FlightAware will complete the paperwork necessary for blocking your aircraft on other flight tracking services and will provide you with everything you need to accomplish the block.
  • Blocking request through NBAA BARR The NBAA (National Business Aviation Association) operates and maintains the BARR (Blocked Aircraft Registration Request) in conjunction with the FAA. This service is free although it may take 30-45 days to take effect and will not allow your user account to track your aircraft on FlightAware unless you subscribe to FlightAware's selective unblocking service.
    For us to submit your request, simply contact us to walk you through the process.
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butt said:
I personally wouldn't log any time in a plane if I knew it wasn't being tracked by flight aware. What if sometime in the future you did an interview and they tried to match up your times and it didn't match up with flightaware? You'd have some explaining to do. It just isn't worth it. Yes the odds are that they probably wouldn't but why take that chance? Its not worth it. Also, I heard the FAA sometimes uses flight aware to check against the logbook of pilots when they are rampchecked to make sure the pilots aren't logging any time illegally.
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This thread should be locked to further avoid any more posts of this nature.

Just out of curiosity where does this information come from?
 
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My guess is "butt" is laughing his ass off about now...
 
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Ian J said:
My guess is "butt" is laughing his ass off about now...
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butt has a history of some real zingers in posts here on JC.

This is just another one of them.
 
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