Difficulty learning G-IV, coming from an EMB-145

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Anyone have experience flying both? I'm curious how the systems compare between the two, if this is a plane that you could learn in a relatively short amount of time (like a week or two).
 
I don't think it's hard at all. A friend of mine did it, he didn't mention any difficulty. Aren't both Honeywell setups too?
 
If you can learn a jet at an airline, I don't see how learning a new airplane for corporate should be harder at all. Especially a regional where it's more like "learn this in a month or you're out". I've heard there's a distinct difference between going to places like Flight Safety as an airline guy versus a corporate guy.
 
Jets are jets, system-wise. Grumman likes to speak alphabet soup, but that's not an insurmountable obstacle as long as you can remember that DCBPCU stands for "DC Bus Power Control Unit." (Whatever that means, that is.)

With respect to avionics, they aren't all the same, but a good training program gives you enough exposure and hands-on practice (which is the only way I've ever managed to learn the FMC) to be functional by your type ride.

My father, who has a sufficient number of type ratings on his certificate that he must carry two of the damn things and is also something of a Luddite, has a G-IV type and time in type. If you want some specific but dated gouge I can probably arrange that.

This is an old article from my favorite ancient pelican regarding his experience in Gulfstream school. Take it with a grain of salt, but like most training events, a lot of it is going to be on you.
 
I have a bunch of GIV FlightSafety material stashed away if you want it. They only catch is its all packed away in boxes somewhere and I won't see it for about a month until I'm finished moving...

My dad has a significant about of Gulfstream time, with a lot of it in the IV. From what I remember him saying, comparatively, the systems were fairly complex mainly the electrical. This is coming from a guy who flew Lears, Falcons and Jetstars back when they were still new.
 
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Just follow the checklist religously. After you select start let the APU stabilize before you initiate the start. Probably the most solid airframe you'll ever fly.
 
The G-IV is probably the best large cabin jet I've ever dealt with. With decent MX it will run forever and do it with a certain sense of purpose and prescence. Plus they're not ugly.
 
TwoTwoLeft said:
I have a bunch of GIV FlightSafety material stashed away if you want it. They only catch is its all packed away in boxes somewhere and I won't see it for about a month until I'm finished moving...

My dad has a significant about of Gulfstream time, with a lot of it in the IV. From what I remember him saying, comparatively, the systems were fairly complex mainly the electrical. This is coming from a guy who flew Lears, Falcons and Jetstars back when they were still new.
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Autothrust Blue said:
Jets are jets, system-wise. Grumman likes to speak alphabet soup, but that's not an insurmountable obstacle as long as you can remember that DCBPCU stands for "DC Bus Power Control Unit." (Whatever that means, that is.)

With respect to avionics, they aren't all the same, but a good training program gives you enough exposure and hands-on practice (which is the only way I've ever managed to learn the FMC) to be functional by your type ride.

My father, who has a sufficient number of type ratings on his certificate that he must carry two of the damn things and is also something of a Luddite, has a G-IV type and time in type. If you want some specific but dated gouge I can probably arrange that.

This is an old article from my favorite ancient pelican regarding his experience in Gulfstream school. Take it with a grain of salt, but like most training events, a lot of it is going to be on you.
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That's kind of the stuff I was worried about, the things in the back like the electrical, fuel and hydraulic, etc, I'm sure I can understand them given enough study, I was just wondering if I had a time constraint of like a week or two, if those systems were so complex that that might be a bit optimistic. Don't want to add checkride failure to my collection.
 
scooter2525 said:
I read that in James Mays voice.
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Stone Cold said:
Are you going to the schoolhouse or is it "in house training"? I'm not sure how different it is from the G-V, but I passed with no problems. It can't be that hard. :confused:
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If I go it would be the schoolhouse, though I'm not sure if it's going to be the long or a shortened course. But obviously I'd want a descent understanding of the systems and limitations before I even got there.
 
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