Difficulty learning G-IV, coming from an EMB-145

mshunter said:
It was for an SIC type. I did everything except for an SE go around. I already had systems knowledge because I had about 6 months and 200 hours with the company.

But, AFAIK, all you need is a record of training, and to pass the type ride. I don't think there is necessarily any kind of real requirement for a specific amount of training.
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So you already had 200 hours in the airplane? Lol, yeah, I wouldn't say that's the typical route, and misleading with your first statement.

There absolutely are requirements for training at the schoolhouses. I'm sure some of the guys who have worked in the schools can elaborate on that. If I were to go back into the Lear or Challenger, even though I have time in type, I'd have to go through the full program. It's been too long since I've been in either airframe.

It might be an insurance requirement for some of this, but there absolutely are requirements for the schoolhouses.
 
Flying the airplane first is not the typical route. I was given a short course SIC type in the LRJET before I had any time in it. Thanks bottom feeder charter!

Initial for some aircraft is 14 days, some are 15, and 16 days. LRJET initial is 2 weeks at FSI. MY CE560XL type was 16 days, and my Phenom 300 type was 22 days.

@rockman2343@aol.com, do you work at Fuga?
 
A jet is a jet. Don't over due it prior to training, they will cover everything you'll need to know to pass the check-ride. Once you're out flying, you'll learn a sh*t-ton more from the "old-wise" senior captain.
 
Make sure you disengage the gust lock before starting engines. Or before taxi. Or really anytime before takeoff. Too soon?
 
tizzizzailslf04 said:
This guy blogs his entire type course. Not sure how helpful or relevant it is, but pretty interesting nonetheless.
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OMG the G4's instrument panel is HUGE!!!


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If you're only experience with training is a regional, Flightsafety will be a pleasant surprise. As long as your instructor is decent, it's just not the same environment as a regional. At the regional ( or any airline) you are fighting for your job. At FSI(or anyone else, though I've no experience at Simuflite,et al.) you are still there to pass a checkride, and tick off boxes, but it didn't feel nearly as "painful". Still lots of work, still need to show proficiency and the rest, but I wasn't AS stressed doing my Citation type and ATP ride all at once, not like I would have been at a regional I think.

After all, Flightsafety is being paid by your employer to get you through a type rating. Sure, they only stand to make more money off of you if you fail, but it's in their best interest nearly as much as yours for you to pass.
 
z987k said:
Uh no. Not even close.
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Yeah, no.

It's an intense experience, but I wouldn't call it a fight.

I mean, if you have the intellect and work skills to get a B.S. or B.A., and halfway-decent study skills, you should be able to get through initial. I'm not going to call it a "freebie," but as far as academic content, the airlines (or at least the ones I have worked for, n=2) are very good at giving you the need-to-know and nice-to-know information.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Yeah, no.

It's an intense experience, but I wouldn't call it a fight.

I mean, if you have the intellect and work skills to get a B.S. or B.A., and halfway-decent study skills, you should be able to get through initial. I'm not going to call it a "freebie," but as far as academic content, the airlines (or at least the ones I have worked for, n=2) are very good at giving you the need-to-know and nice-to-know information.
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Pssh. Must have been nice! I know the airlines you worked for, as I worked for them too. At both places we had bare knuckles, no rules, street fights during breaks. For we had to fight for our job! You got off lucky.
 
B767 said:
Pssh. Must have been nice! I know the airlines you worked for, as I worked for them too. At both places we had bare knuckles, no rules, street fights during breaks. For we had to fight for our job! You got off lucky.
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I won't say it was easy, or stress-free, but I don't think I had to fight to pass it.
 
Inverted said:
Initial for some aircraft is 14 days, some are 15, and 16 days. LRJET initial is 2 weeks at FSI. MY CE560XL type was 16 days, and my Phenom 300 type was 22 days.
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What could possibly cause the Phenom type to take 22 days? CAE 100 initial was 15 or 16 days and even that was too long.
 
Perhaps fighting was too strong of a word? Either way, I felt I was treated more like a "professional pilot" and less like a living seat warmer during my experiences at Flightsafety for initial, recurrent and type rides. But I didn't have a good experience at my first regional either, so perhaps that's why it felt like a fight.
 
Max Power said:
Perhaps fighting was too strong of a word? Either way, I felt I was treated more like a "professional pilot" and less like a living seat warmer during my experiences at Flightsafety for initial, recurrent and type rides. But I didn't have a good experience at my first regional either, so perhaps that's why it felt like a fight.
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Meh.

I don't think I've ever received anything but professional treatment at the hands of my various training programs (n=3).
 
Just got my books today. Plane 4 in just over 3 years. At least the weights are all round numbers versus the odd ball Embraer ones from being converted from kg.
 
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