Diamond D-Jets...

[bdhill1979]

So cmon man, check your numbers. I have digital fuel flows and engine analyzers in these planes, gps, these are the performance numbers.

I have all of that stuff too; digital engine analyzers, fuel flow meters, egt and cylinder head temperatures for each cylinder, neato burrito equipment.

I also keep track of the fuel receipts (the boss got his degree in accounting, if I didn't he would kill me) so I know exactly how much went in and how much was burned by the next fill up.

Takeoff, climbout, and whatnot it gets around 22 GPH; but at cruise it is almost always reading 16 GPH.

If it was inaccurate; off by only two gallons per hour I would have crashed at least once when I had to go right to the 30 minute reserve when clear skies were on the report for our destination when in fact it was fogged in and we had to divert.

I do not disagree that the numbers sound abnormal, but the owner has spent quite a bit of money on this plane to get the maximum performance out of it. Like I said I cannot even list all the things he has had done to it without going through the Mx logs. I have suggested a few times that if he intends to spend the kind of money he has he should consider a different airframe, but he learned to fly in a 152 and wants to keep it similar to that; though we all know that high wing single made in Kansas is about where the similarities end.

I never said anything about twinstars. I said twins. The twinstar is ###### dude, it appears like all of your multi time is in ###### twin stars. Did you know there are other twins out there? Twins that climb out faster than singles! who woulda thought, probably cause they have more thrust to weight or somthing....

Well the thread was pretty much about Diamonds, I agree that other twins are much better performers. Not all of my time was in a twinstar, but that is what the school I instruct at has, and I hate those damn things.

you'll care about multi time if you ever want to move up in the world.

Move up to what?

An airline job where I am over worked, underpaid, my job is subject to the whims of an unstable market and could be gone tomorrow, and my children don't know who I am??

Or

Stay at my current job where I make more than almost any regional first officer out there, I have enough free time to keep instructing (something I genuinely enjoy), the boss has the plane so he can be back by dinnertime as much as possible, if we do go overnight I am staying in the same hotel he is, or it is really a paid vacation which he typically invites my wife to come along as well, I have standing permission to take the plane whenever I want, wherever I want; just so long as I pay for the gas and it doesn't interfere with one of the boss's trips.

man it seems kinda arrogant of you for not valuing multi time... "don't care....the boss is getting a barron...." there are guys that would give their left balls to get multi time like that!

I know it may sound a bit arrogant and I am not trying to be a dick about it, but I genuinely don't care how much I get. I hear it all the time about not getting any multi time, but I am not in a race to get somewhere else.

I am in a situation that I recognize as rare, but one that is paying well and is giving me a very favorable quality of life. I have been home for every "first" in my daughter's life; to me that is the priority right now.

I will be the first to admit that I fell ass backwards into this job; didn't even see it coming. It came because of knowing people, not how much and what kind of time was in my logbook. He may decide to not buy that Baron, I may not ever get one hour of multi engine time out of this job, but I am OK with that. If I finally get my ass in gear and get the MEI I will get as much as I want or need through the school I am working at. But I am definately not going anywhere soon.

I fly a T210R that is a good 185kts at 10k and about 20gph. I have never taken it up high, but the other pilot claims it is a 200kt plane in the flight levels (I think the POH claims 210kts). 165kts seems really slow, but the L and N models may not be as fast at the R.

Alex.

What year is yours? Our airframe is a 1967, but that is about the only thing that is original.

 

[Flyin_bryan]

"neato burrito equipment"

"what kind of time was in my logbook"

What year is yours? Our airframe is a 1967, but that is about the only thing that is original.

hahah I've never heard "neato burrito equipment" before .... hahah give me a second here... hahah

I see your viewpoint. Im all about having the right qualifications if a dream job should show up on a persons doorstep. I look at it like this... might as well take advantage of halfway free multi time while you can. I have been burned by insruance not letting me fly certain airplanes because I lack multi time.

the /r models were the last models of 210's built. I think the last year was '86. Dont think they made very many. They are the best designed 210's. The wings are longer, better engine, and I think there is no rudder aleiron interconnect.

 

[CK]

What year is yours? Our airframe is a 1967, but that is about the only thing that is original.

It is an '86, 14th to last one built. The R models look bigger than the previous models. People say it also flies a lot differently. It has a different elevator then the other 210s, which they say makes a huge difference in landing, but I've never flown any other 210 so I don't know.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled/Cessna-T210R-Turbo/0976002/L/

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled/Cessna-T210R-Turbo/1081552/L/

Alex.