Developing a Safety Management System

[mjg407]

Any good sources. From what I understand the FAA is trying to figure out how to stick this to the 135 operators, and eventually us, so the Feds I work for are looking at us designing our own. Any references you may have would be welcome. Thanks.
Michael

 

[HeyEng]

Any good sources. From what I understand the FAA is trying to figure out how to stick this to the 135 operators, and eventually us, so the Feds I work for are looking at us designing our own. Any references you may have would be welcome. Thanks.
Michael

You should have gone to Riddle, huh? That cool "safety system management" class would have ALL READY to rock and roll!!!



Are you looking for a program that is already in place and then "cut and paste"/adjust for your organization?

 

[Champcar]

You should have gone to Riddle, huh? That cool "safety system management" class would have ALL READY to rock and roll!!!



Are you looking for a program that is already in place and then "cut and paste"/adjust for your organization?

Hey I enjoyed the hell out of those classes.

 

[HeyEng]

Hey I enjoyed the hell out of those classes.

Not my favorite class. Probably because I worked in the flight safety office for too long! :drool:

 

[mjg407]

Yeah that would work. Just looking for ideas right now. The SMS wasn't in place when I went to ASO school in Montery. You would be surprised how resistant this industry is when it comes to anything with the Military label.

 

[Polar742]

Here are some references from the 8900. Even though they seem to be aimed at aircarriers, these are the guidelines the FAA has laid out for the inspectors to use.

I can prolly find some more, but these oughta be a good start:

http://fsims.faa.gov/PICDetail.aspx?docId=AEC1F76AEC2F81778525734F0076672A

For those that are browsing the thread, this link includes ASAP info: http://fsims.faa.gov/PICDetail.aspx?docId=D0E4E47B9B2353A38525734F0076672B

http://fsims.faa.gov/PICDetail.aspx?docId=273A05278E1D040E8525734F0076672C

Here is the FAA's risk management doctrine:

http://fsims.faa.gov/PICDetail.aspx?docId=26890DA05473DF7C86257432004C1F93

 

[mjg407]

Thanks Polar, any truth on the rumor that they are trying to force this on 135 operators?

 

[Polar742]

I have no idea. However, if they do, these are the standards the inspectors will use for compliance. My philosiphy would be to build a program now to meet the standards and there will be less, um, stress, down the road....

 

[Minuteman]

You know it has to be good if the FAA has a link to a Nuclear Regulatory Agency document:

Safety Management System (SMS) for Airport: Guidance, Tools, & Related Information

As far as implementation, the Flight Safety Foundation is a good place for guidance/auditing as well.

And ICAO, of course, has a sample SMS Implementation Plan.

Haven't heard anything about requirements for 135 operators either.

 

[mjg407]

It was mentioned at our SMS working group held by BLM/USFS, and that is why they are trying to get ahead prior to a mandate. But like any other program, you can put a nice one down on paper but until your sector has a culture change, it won't change a thing.

 

[SteveC]

I think that Wyvern or ARG/US will be (or are) pushing 135 operators to adopt a program. I did a little bit of homework on this a while back, but promptly brain-dumped the info when I passed it along.

I think that the Canadians had some pretty good info. Let me take a look...

...yeah, take a look through this site for good background and examples:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/SMS/menu.htm

 

[ladder360]

A lot of these links above are a huge - particularly the actual FAA SMS link.

Not sure if you guys are looking for outside help, but I used to work for a great consulting firm in Houston that does SMS. Even though they specialize in process safety, the fundamentals are the same. Check out the SMS page on their website at http://www.rrseng.com/s_manage.php

I've never personally put together a full SMS, but was involved in many portions back when I was a fire and safety consultant. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions along the way.

Good luck!