Delter debacle
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ahsmatt7
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As much as people don't like it, the way SWA does it eliminates this issue completely. It also breeds a much more true and simpler understanding of what people are actually buying.
With assigned seats, people think they are buying that seat and its their right to do whatever they want with it. When in reality, as we all know, that's not the case.
As someone said a few pages back, a person buys the service of an airline to get them from Point A to Point B. They essentially buy a spot for their name on the manifest. When the public figures this out, there will be a lot less confusion as to whats actually being bought and rendered to the customer.
Anyways, I am preaching to the choir at this point.
At this point, the flying public will stay in willful ignorance to hold on to this societal mindset of "I am a victim...I just have to find out what it is I am a victim of."
With assigned seats, people think they are buying that seat and its their right to do whatever they want with it. When in reality, as we all know, that's not the case.
As someone said a few pages back, a person buys the service of an airline to get them from Point A to Point B. They essentially buy a spot for their name on the manifest. When the public figures this out, there will be a lot less confusion as to whats actually being bought and rendered to the customer.
Anyways, I am preaching to the choir at this point.
At this point, the flying public will stay in willful ignorance to hold on to this societal mindset of "I am a victim...I just have to find out what it is I am a victim of."
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
We really should stop doing the projectile-in-arms thing. I'm pretty sure that we're the last first-world country that does this.
I don't have kids, but I wouldn't let mine ride around infant-in-arms. They'll have a ticket and an FAA-approved restraint system.
(If you can't have them in your arms in a car, why the hell is this still legal?)
I have no idea.
I still remember hearing them referred to as "lap rockets" at Skyway because in a high speed, high deceleration RTO you're probably going to hear a loud "POP" at the child hits the cockpit door.
I don't have kids but I seriously question why anyone would want to do that other than saving a few dollars.
I still remember hearing them referred to as "lap rockets" at Skyway because in a high speed, high deceleration RTO you're probably going to hear a loud "POP" at the child hits the cockpit door.
I don't have kids but I seriously question why anyone would want to do that other than saving a few dollars.
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
Something else you get away with until you don't, no?
BigZ
Well-Known Member
Read a statement about that somewhere long time ago.
Went somewhere along the lines of "Because it is statistically safer than the said family driving to destination"
Hiboglossi
The Most Depressing Person
Frankly it astounds me that Lap Children are allowed, especially with how much emphasis society puts on child safety in most other situations. I suppose most parents who a bring their children as lap infants aren't aware of the risks but it surprises me that so many of them are comfortable with this.
https://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?contentKey=1966
Apparently that is at least part of the FAA's rationale. Seems inappropriate for an agency charged with regulating aviation safety.
My favorite term is "meat missiles". Incidentally I heard that term from someone who flew for Skyway.
I'm sure saving a few dollars it what it's all about. Evidently in this case their child's safety is worth no more than a few hundred dollars.
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
I feel like there's a public-relations joke there somewhere.
Somewhere, in the Mike Monroney Aeronautical Center, Civil Aeromedical Institute in Oklahoma City, there's an accident survivability engineer shaking his head vehemently.
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
Hiboglossi
The Most Depressing Person
True. In this case it appears "promoting" it took precedence. Probably with some lobbying from airlines concerned that prohibiting lap children might drive away some parents as passengers.
wheelsup
Well-Known Member
Personally I'd have zero issues holding a kid on my lap. The probability is extremely low. Personally I get a kick out of the parents who bring car seats on board, what a huge cluster and PITA.
That being said, you can't have a laptop out but a baby is fine according to the FAA? Their rules have no logic.
That being said, you can't have a laptop out but a baby is fine according to the FAA? Their rules have no logic.
ClarkGriswold
Non Nutritive Cereal Varnish Engineer
Do you have kids? Holding a lap child sucks. We do the carseat thing it sucks too but we have a pretty efficient system down.
averettpilot
Well-Known Member
I'm beyond disinterested in this story now, but couldn't the question "can I see your boarding passes, please?" have solved this? If he's right, he'll have a ticket for himself, a ticket for his wife, and a ticket for his two year old. If he's wrong, that third ticket will have his teenager's name on it. "Sorry sir, this ticket doesn't match the occupant, you'll have to hold your two year old," or "Well I'll be, this ticket has your two year old as the occupant, we apologize for this delay."
BigZ
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I nonrevved with kids few times. 4yo daughter and 1yo son. On a three hour late evening flight 3 economy plus seats and car seat are much, much better than holding kid on lap. I do have to admit the only other couple of times I saw people with a carseat on the plane they were nonrevs also
NovemberEcho
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To be fair they got rid of the "promote" part of their mission statement a while ago