Delta Psychological Eval Lawsuit?

ppragman said:
Very rarely I'll sit next to someone who's done other things in their life or has some truly profound wisdom to learn from, or has a diverse educational background in something completely different than aviation who's passions lie outside the cockpit and it's really nice.

As a whole, we're pretty boring as pilots. I suppose that's a good thing, but yeah, it makes for long trips.
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Thats always nice indeed. A heck of alot better than hearing "well, when I was the assistant captain of the flight team at Embry Riddle i mastered the message drop competition against all these other flight schools in the nationals..."

Makes me feel like the people in the movie Airplane who each, after being forced to listen to Ted Striker's life story, take their own lives in some way. :)

Too many pilots simply don't hve any kind of life or present/past career outside of aviation. I'm happy to talk about all kinds of different things.
 
ppragman said:
Very rarely I'll sit next to someone who's done other things in their life or has some truly profound wisdom to learn from, or has a diverse educational background in something completely different than aviation who's passions lie outside the cockpit and it's really nice.
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I like to travel to weird places, lately a lot of Eastern Europe.

I just flew with a FO who was retired Navy, worked for NATO in Belgium, and did his master's in Eastern European National Security. Sadly it was just a two day trip.
 
Stryker172 said:
I'm not sure how a question like 'I want to go scuba diving' exposes someones crazy. It takes more than just a 30 minute agree/disagree self test to determine if someone is going to pull the slide or fly into the side of a mountain. I think its more about 'do I want to spend 4 days locked in a tiny room with this person until they retire?'
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Clearly you haven’t heard of Scuba Steve or seen Claude from “Along Came Polly” :)

I gather the psychological profiling isn’t as much “crazed lunatic flies into the side of the mountain” but more of the angle of being reliably able to handle stress, work in a team environment or be an HR nightmare because being at work on time in the proper uniform is big blue meanie stupid dummy head stuff*










*I have stories
 
Stryker172 said:
I'm not sure how a question like 'I want to go scuba diving' exposes someones crazy. It takes more than just a 30 minute agree/disagree self test to determine if someone is going to pull the slide or fly into the side of a mountain. I think its more about 'do I want to spend 4 days locked in a tiny room with this person until they retire?'
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I think part of those questions is so that airline can defend themselves in court if something goes wrong and a pilots mental health is being questioned. The airline can argue that they have a test in place to look for signs. Even if they don't find the signs, they can reduce liability by proving they made an honest faith effort.
 
MikeD said:
Thats always nice indeed. A heck of alot better than hearing "well, when I was the assistant captain of the flight team at Embry Riddle i mastered the message drop competition against all these other flight schools in the nationals..."

Makes me feel like the people in the movie Airplane who each, after being forced to listen to Ted Striker's life story, take their own lives in some way. :)

Too many people simply don't have any kind of life ... outside ...
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Shirly, you jest. And don't call me surly. ;)

BTW, FTFY.
 
ppragman said:
What's the use of free will when I can have Brawndo?! It doesn't tell me what to think!



Not to be a dick or anything, but the answer to "do I want to spend 4 days locked in a tiny room with this person until they retire?" is almost always, "no."

For the most part - myself included - us pilot types are pretty straight laced and boring. Even the ones who aren't weird or some sort of high functioning sociopath have similar enough life stories so that it's kind of lame to sit next to them.

If I'm going to be trapped in a pressurized metal tube with someone, they should at least be kind of interesting, or talk about interesting things (cue Livin' the Dream video). The vast majority of pilots I know talk about a few things: flying (which is fine, we have that in common, but maybe we could talk about some of the finer points instead of just complaining about things), they bitch about the company/their job/flying/their station in life, how they're going to get rich quick, or they worry incessantly about the flight.

Very rarely I'll sit next to someone who's done other things in their life or has some truly profound wisdom to learn from, or has a diverse educational background in something completely different than aviation who's passions lie outside the cockpit and it's really nice.

As a whole, we're pretty boring as pilots. I suppose that's a good thing, but yeah, it makes for long trips.
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Yikes. I guess I’ve been fortunate enough to fly with some pretty interesting people!

World travel, food, life experiences, interesting hobbies, etc. All quite interesting. Very rarely does flying get discussed.

Now the office workers I shared the hours of 8-5 with as an engineer? Holy crap were they ever boring... Stories around the water cooler were either about golf, kids, or home improvement. Barf!
 
mrivc211 said:
I think part of those questions is so that airline can defend themselves in court if something goes wrong and a pilots mental health is being questioned. The airline can argue that they have a test in place to look for signs. Even if they don't find the signs, they can reduce liability by proving they made an honest faith effort.
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You guys are reading too much into that IMO. I had that exact question on the United hogan, and answered yes (I am a certified diver after all). I also answered “yes” to wanting to drive a race car. I passed.

My opinion is that they’re looking for honesty (if you answer no to every question about a risky hobby, you’re either lying or a boring weirdo).

Basically I think they’re just looking for normal people, but then those types read threads like this and panic, thinking they can’t answer the questions like a normal person.
 
mrivc211 said:
My day 1 brief went something like, "looks like were showing at 5am everyday for 4 days. FYI, you won't hear much from me until the sun has risen and I've had some coffee so if I don't smile or say hi, its not you, its me!"
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Yep. My day starts off with staring blankly out the van window followed by, “no questions, preflight checklist.”
 
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