Delta GPU connect fire SEA

Thats only when some chicken fat drips on the combustors.

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Roger Roger said:
Fortunately in that setup the 120VAC was a standard 3-prong household plug.
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I was once privy to finding an orange extension cord on a Lear buried under the carpet, hooked on one end with environmental splices to an inverter and the receptacle on the other end actually had been epoxied and zip tied into position. Never trust a private jet from south Florida.
 
MikeD said:
Just curious, do ANY of these rampers know how to use a flightline fire extinguisher? They are located on the ramp under nearly every jetway, ranging from 150lb units to 300lb units. These kinds of situations are the exact reason they are located there. Why have them at all, if personnel are either not trained how to use them, or simply don’t use them, but instead run around in a disorganized manner and accomplishing nothing?


View: https://youtube.com/watch?v=h9r17ccUn8U
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They aren't supposed to attempt to fight something like this unless they have extra training from another walk of life. I'd have pulled everyone the hell away and called airport fire immediately. Even the managers have the same very very rudimentary training, only meant for like trash or paper fires not an actively flaming GPU plugged into an aircraft. The average ramper of ramp sup/Manager alike would have no idea what to do here other than call for help.

Exactly 0 training I saw at UA, DL, WN ect about aircraft related fires beyond GTFO.
 
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Does Delta have some sort of Emergency Deplaning procedure? This would be like, "leave everything, and exit out the jetbridge"
 
Maximilian_Jenius said:
Paging @Cherokee_Cruiser. Paging @Cherokee_Cruiser
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I also have to speak about an airplane that had to get everyone off shortly after they started the engines and things went sideways. Airplane was sitting on the ramp for an hour with the APU running waiting for pax, they finally show up, load up and the safety briefing is done. Everyone is in their seats and after the right engine is started acrid smoke begins to creep into the cabin. No one was hurt and everyone got off the airplane without any other issues. Gulfstream, in the constant search for weight savings, used 8 AWG solid aluminum wires between each engines transformer/rectifiers and the power distribution box. There was an obvious hiccup in the PDB that day, and it cooked the insulation on that single wire run, yep, those big aluminum wires were one piece, no connectors or terminals between the tail to just behind the cockpit. During the repair the thought of just scrapping the airplane started to make sense. But it got fixed and it's still flying.
 
knot4u said:
I recall we once had a G-IV that started to blow 20' fireballs out of one of the tailpipes on start up, other than the combustion display the engine ran perfectly, it was pretty impressive. The old Tays did not have any sort of FADEC at all. Upon inspection it was found that over time enough wear and stretch had been introduced into the cables and linkages that controlled the mechanical fuel control that the fuel cock wasn't quite reaching cut off. It would shut down normally because of the amount of air going through the engine, but on start up with the addition of just the right amount of undesired fuel with a relatively small amount of air and then the introduction of the igniters popping off it got rowdy. We re-rigged the engine controls, verified, re-verified and tested it multiple times with no fire balls and sent it on its way.
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I remember one early, very cold and icy morning, in the high elevation thin air of Fallon,NV starting up my airplane right next to my buddy/wingman. On the old Hornet, we had no FADEC either, just hydromechanical electrically regulated fuel control. Anyway, there may have been a fairly strong tailwind the way our parking line was oriented. I was busy cranking one of the engines when I saw a bright flash of light and felt heat on my arm resting on the canopy rail nearest the wingman's airplane. Looked over, and there are giant balls of fire like you describe, blasting out of one of his tailpipes. Plane captain is going bananas and giving the fire signal. I think he did the correct thing and just chopped the throttle to the OFF/fuel cutoff position and kept cranking it till it stopped. But man was that a spectacle! From that I learned to always always alway.....always crank those motors in cold conditions like that until they were not only at max rotation from the starter air, but also waiting until the EGT started to slightly rise with the airflow. This could take well over a minute in freezing or somewhat below freezing conditions. I think because I already had this habit (though I hadn't yet seen the "why" in the wild), I had an undramatic startup. But we were just kids from coastal Virginia at the time......what's cold weather?
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
To be fair, I did NOT start this thread. This post was buried inside another thread. It was broken off and started as a separate thread by a mod. I wouldn’t have started a separate thread for this.
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For all: Is a system bug. When posts are combined/merged into a thread, the system seems to place them chronologically from when the posts were made, and will re-characterize the thread showing the earliest post as the thread creator/initiator, even though it might not have been.
 
ChasenSFO said:
They aren't supposed to attempt to fight something like this unless they have extra training from another walk of life. I'd have pulled everyone the hell away and called airport fire immediately. Even the managers have the same very very rudimentary training, only meant for like trash or paper fires not an actively flaming GPU plugged into an aircraft. The average ramper of ramp sup/Manager alike would have no idea what to do here other than call for help.i

Exactly 0 training I saw at UA, DL, WN ect about aircraft related fires beyond GTFO.
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So who uses the flightline fire extinguishers that are next to every jet parking area, under every jet bridge, and why are they even there? As ramp decorations? What’s the point of having them?
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
I'm sorry. I do have a knack for pointing out the obvious and annoying people. Thank you for not resorting to personal attacks that many seem to on the interwebz.
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Oh it’s nothing you are personally doing wrong at all. It’s merely one of those “the truth sucks! But it’s still the truth, like it or not” kind of things. :)
 
ERfly said:
The L1011 could make the field go IFR on a cold start!
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Long time ago, I was on the L1011 jumpseat going from MCO to ATL during a (orlando-definition of a) cold morning. It was like a 1980’s hair metal video, especially with the low light and rotating beacon lighting it up.

🎶 Like a rainbow in the daaaaaaaaaark 🎶
 
MikeD said:
So who uses the flightline fire extinguishers that are next to every jet parking area, under every jet bridge, and why are they even there? As ramp decorations? What’s the point of having them?
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You’re asking military questions in the civilian world! :)
 
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