I've never flown into CLE, but the same scenario happened in ORF on the regular.
Why would the DL pilots be pissed? They got paid more this way.
all I hear about is mgmt telling us about there HUGE bonuses that CJC gets when we hit our ontime percentage but strangely enough I have not seen any incentive to the pilot group to be on time.
I've never flown into CLE, but the same scenario happened in ORF on the regular.
They'd stick a jet tight behind a piston something-or-other (didn't really matter if it was 60 kts or 100, due to the closure rate)
The pilots knew ATC jammed them up, and I'm sure weren't mad at you.
When you're on approach and all that, ATC is responsible for spacing. Fly YOUR airplane safely.
Everyone does it a little different on visuals but roughly (for the ERJ):I'm starting to see what you mean. They were using 28 again today, and they put me in right behind a Continental Jet. It was my turn to throw in the flaps, gear, and S-Turn. It may seem strange coming from a Baron, but on a 3-5 mile final it seems like the Baron is much faster than the jets. Just curious, how fast on average are the jets on final. We are usually 180 till 3-5 out then about 150 till about a mile out. I've done parallel landings right beside heavys at CLE before, and we almost always match them, if not beat them in.
:yup: LMAO, thank god I only fly cargo!
dcramer16;915734\ Just curious said:An RJ pilot myself....As someone said before, we're usually about 180 to the outer marker which is usually about 5 miles out, then we slow and are fully configured by 1,000' AGL and roughly at target speed (130 kts +/-) a couple seconds later.
We could go at it much faster but at least my company stresses the "Stabilized Approach Concept." Fully configured by 1000' and everything how it should be by 500'. No decelerating to approach speed at a mile out. I would imagine most jet operators operate similarly and stress a stabilized approach.
As you said you're doing 150 till a mile out, that's roughly 300AGL...then you decelerate to your vref which I imagine is around 95 knots. So you decelerate from 150 to 95 in a matter of 300'. This wouldn't "fly" at our company even though we theoretically could pull'er back to idle at the end.
As you said you're doing 150 till a mile out, that's roughly 300AGL...then you decelerate to your vref which I imagine is around 95 knots. So you decelerate from 150 to 95 in a matter of 300'. This wouldn't "fly" at our company even though we theoretically could pull'er back to idle at the end.
Unless its the last leg of a 4 day with a tight commute home I could care less. More money for us. Yea the whole ontime thing but all I hear about is mgmt telling us about there HUGE bonuses that CJC gets when we hit our ontime percentage but strangely enough I have not seen any incentive to the pilot group to be on time.
Once at SNA I heard a small guy apologize for sending a jet around - the jet came back and said, I would rather you fly safely and we go around, then crash and make us divert.