Delta Air Lines job fair vs internal rec

The aformentioned PDF does exist and the 30 day timeline mentioned in this thread is just what it says. Comparable to the "Blue Dart" it sounds like. The recommender receives an e-mail back from the selection people as well.
 
Nick said:
The aformentioned PDF does exist and the 30 day timeline mentioned in this thread is just what it says. Comparable to the "Blue Dart" it sounds like. The recommender receives an e-mail back from the selection people as well.
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The Blue Dart style concept is what it sounded to me like he was describing.

My agency, guys are often asking me about recruiting; but things have changed 9 or 10 times in the time when I went through the process, that I haven't been able to keep up with how much of how anything is done now. Probably similar changes coming or have come at Delta, which is what it seems like Doug is referring to.
 
Nick said:
The aformentioned PDF does exist and the 30 day timeline mentioned in this thread is just what it says. Comparable to the "Blue Dart" it sounds like. The recommender receives an e-mail back from the selection people as well.
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My source literally has no idea what any of this is, including the 30 day window and I believe she's pretty much the alpha to the omega of pilot selection.
 
Derg said:
My source literally has no idea what any of this is, including the 30 day window and I believe she's pretty much the alpha to the omega of pilot selection.
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PM'ing you the link and the pdf if it will attach!
 
Nick said:
PM'ing you the link and the pdf if it will attach!
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I can email It, not sure how to PM a PDF. Looking through my email history it was first sent to me in June 2015. But is widely distributed by DAL pilots in my squadron who have been pinged for an internal from others, so that applicants understand the process of recommendations.
 
Any guidance you have before 1/1/2017 is obsolete, completely.

Even throughout 2016, the "system" was tweaked a number of times and now, especially with lessons learned from 2016 and a new Manager of Pilot Selection, it largely will not resemble anything you've heard about.

There is no "30 day window". Maybe there was for a period of time, but no one has used that "deadline", for quite a while. I wish I could say more, but my buddy is bound by a pretty tight NDA.

The system always is in "flux" in terms of taking out things that work, putting in things that do and temporary "tweaks" to see if it has efficacy. And yes, it's by design because some try to continuously "hack" the system.

Best advice:
1. Interpret the application questions as literally as possible.
2. The DPR Facebook page is a direct line to the recruitment team and the Manager of Pilot Development which oversees the Manager of Pilot Selection.
3. Attend a career fair this year. "A" does not mean "every". There is a tangible benefit for attending one, there is no tangible benefit for attending multiple career fairs in a 12 month period.
4. Have an internal letter of recommendation through the airline apps system.
5. To date, one (just one) email to the pilot selection board using the internal email address can be beneficial, but only in a 12 month period so if your internal is going to write it, your stuff better be correct because it's a one-shot per year thing.
6. Check your application for completeness
7. Personal peeve: everyone knows what a copilot does. If you're going to grace the airline with a long, floral, catch-phrase heavy description of what a copilot does, please don't forget that you actually fly the airplane.
8. For the love of all that is good in the world, grammar, spelling and sentence structure.
9. Personal Peeve: Please please please when it comes to professional organizations or volunteer work, the answer isn't simply "OBAP, NGPA, WAI" because it makes the evaluator wonder "fees paid and career fairs attended doesn't really describe your altruism"

But hang tight. There are a lot of changes in store, again, for 2017 and those that say they know, don't.
 
Derg said:
Any guidance you have before 1/1/2017 is obsolete, completely.

Even throughout 2016, the "system" was tweaked a number of times and now, especially with lessons learned from 2016 and a new Manager of Pilot Selection, it largely will not resemble anything you've heard about.

There is no "30 day window". Maybe there was for a period of time, but no one has used that "deadline", for quite a while. I wish I could say more, but my buddy is bound by a pretty tight NDA.

The system always is in "flux" in terms of taking out things that work, putting in things that do and temporary "tweaks" to see if it has efficacy. And yes, it's by design because some try to continuously "hack" the system.

Best advice:
1. Interpret the application questions as literally as possible.
2. The DPR Facebook page is a direct line to the recruitment team and the Manager of Pilot Development which oversees the Manager of Pilot Selection.
3. Attend a career fair this year. "A" does not mean "every". There is a tangible benefit for attending one, there is no tangible benefit for attending multiple career fairs in a 12 month period.
4. Have an internal letter of recommendation through the airline apps system.
5. To date, one (just one) email to the pilot selection board using the internal email address can be beneficial, but only in a 12 month period so if your internal is going to write it, your stuff better be correct because it's a one-shot per year thing.
6. Check your application for completeness
7. Personal peeve: everyone knows what a copilot does. If you're going to grace the airline with a long, floral, catch-phrase heavy description of what a copilot does, please don't forget that you actually fly the airplane.
8. For the love of all that is good in the world, grammar, spelling and sentence structure.
9. Personal Peeve: Please please please when it comes to professional organizations or volunteer work, the answer isn't simply "OBAP, NGPA, WAI" because it makes the evaluator wonder "fees paid and career fairs attended doesn't really describe your altruism"

But hang tight. There are a lot of changes in store, again, for 2017 and those that say they know, don't.
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And it's "Delta Air Lines." Three words, not two.
 
Should see what pilot's have been doing to best one another lol I'm talking from the military said, I've seen of the airline apps. I don't care enough anymore to care.
 
Derg said:
Any guidance you have before 1/1/2017 is obsolete, completely.

Even throughout 2016, the "system" was tweaked a number of times and now, especially with lessons learned from 2016 and a new Manager of Pilot Selection, it largely will not resemble anything you've heard about.
....

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But hang tight. There are a lot of changes in store, again, for 2017 and those that say they know, don't.
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Excellent, thank you very much. This tells me what I need to know.
 
Derg said:
I hope is doesn't sound like I'm picking on you but who said that? I literally have never heard that from my friend or any of his colleagues in pilot selection.
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Just a Delta line pilot friend. I think he was talking about the email to HR. I don't think he meant a physical form.
 
Derg said:
Any guidance you have before 1/1/2017 is obsolete, completely.

Even throughout 2016, the "system" was tweaked a number of times and now, especially with lessons learned from 2016 and a new Manager of Pilot Selection, it largely will not resemble anything you've heard about.

There is no "30 day window". Maybe there was for a period of time, but no one has used that "deadline", for quite a while. I wish I could say more, but my buddy is bound by a pretty tight NDA.

The system always is in "flux" in terms of taking out things that work, putting in things that do and temporary "tweaks" to see if it has efficacy. And yes, it's by design because some try to continuously "hack" the system.

Best advice:
1. Interpret the application questions as literally as possible.
2. The DPR Facebook page is a direct line to the recruitment team and the Manager of Pilot Development which oversees the Manager of Pilot Selection.
3. Attend a career fair this year. "A" does not mean "every". There is a tangible benefit for attending one, there is no tangible benefit for attending multiple career fairs in a 12 month period.
4. Have an internal letter of recommendation through the airline apps system.
5. To date, one (just one) email to the pilot selection board using the internal email address can be beneficial, but only in a 12 month period so if your internal is going to write it, your stuff better be correct because it's a one-shot per year thing.
6. Check your application for completeness
7. Personal peeve: everyone knows what a copilot does. If you're going to grace the airline with a long, floral, catch-phrase heavy description of what a copilot does, please don't forget that you actually fly the airplane.
8. For the love of all that is good in the world, grammar, spelling and sentence structure.
9. Personal Peeve: Please please please when it comes to professional organizations or volunteer work, the answer isn't simply "OBAP, NGPA, WAI" because it makes the evaluator wonder "fees paid and career fairs attended doesn't really describe your altruism"

But hang tight. There are a lot of changes in store, again, for 2017 and those that say they know, don't.
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So... where do I send my $500? I don't see that spelled out at all.
 
alaskadrifter said:
If FO or CA is listed on a resume is a description even needed?
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Not really. But you know, some people insist.

If you write a floral description of captain, make sure your grammar, spelling and punctuation is correct.

And mention something about actually flying the airplane.
 
Derg said:
Not really. But you know, some people insist.

If you write a floral description of captain, make sure your grammar, spelling and punctuation is correct.

And mention something about actually flying the airplane.
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So don't put "I can haz jerb" on my resume?
 
alaskadrifter said:
So don't put "I can haz jerb" on my resume?
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I mean, if you attach a cat meme to it, I'm sure you'll be fine... Something like....

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