Deadheading...would you take the jumpseat?

jtrain609 said:
Jimmy is right, this happens all the time with us. When there are already a finite number of slots going into X mega huge hub, and those get reduced further, somebody has to get cancelled.

And frankly, it makes sense that we're the ones that get cancelled first. We carry the fewest number of people, and unless there is a compelling reason, we'll either be made to take the delay, or take the cancellation. Like Jimmy, I also had a situation where we had a slot provided to us when we originally were going to time out at the out station. Turns out that almost our entire aircraft was a tour group going to somewhere in Europe, so the hub coordinator found us a slot, worked with our dispatcher, and even parked us next to their outbound plane so THAT flight wouldn't have to take a delay.
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There is no chance in hell this would ever happen today... It's sad dude, you're gonna be shocked.
 
kellwolf said:
Sigh. Who books the flights? Hint: it's not the regionals. The majors are responsible for the bookings and over bookings. NOT Mesa, Skywest and ExpressJet. I'm pretty sure Delta knows how many seats are on a CRJ. On RARE occasions, you can put the overbookings on a regional partner if a seat is inop or there's a swap from a -700 to a -200 or something similar. Anything other than that, and it's on the people selling the tickets.
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The major partners have made a business decision that they have a degree of separation and plausible deniability when it comes to the regional affiliates, so they allow a higher denied boarding percentage into the yield management formulas for them. On the airplanes with less than 50 seats, they aren't even required to report numbers to the DOT, so they really don't care about those at all. It's all a business decision. This isn't a charity. Airlines are trying to make money. And it's difficult enough as it is without imposing onerous restrictions on themselves.

I think at this point, if I gave you stats and figures that said the sky was blue you'd say it was green, I give. You win.
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No, I just read the numbers for what they actually are.
 
Yes, I would and have in the past to get a revenue passenger on-board with the permission of the Captain, and only on my own company or a codeshare,
 
Liking your airline is great. Thinking your people are better than the people at other airlines? Well, that's a little delusional. And arrogant. Especially when you feel that your people are so incredibly wonderful that they make up for the fact that you don't have business class seating, in-flight WiFi, real food available, a big frequent flyer network, etc.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Liking your airline is great. Thinking your people are better than the people at other airlines? Well, that's a little delusional. And arrogant. Especially when you feel that your people are so incredibly wonderful that they make up for the fact that you don't have business class seating, in-flight WiFi, real food available, a big frequent flyer network, etc.
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Completely dismissing a product before trying it is also pretty arrogant. As for the business class seats....you did read the stats, right? Our coach seats are pretty comparable to business class on most domestic carriers. The EMS seats are even better.

As for thinking our people are better, I'm simply going on my past experience with Delta. As always, YMMV, but that's just what I've seen/observed. Sorry if I'd rather be treated as something more than self loading cargo in exchange for more options to burn frequent flier miles or an overpriced sandwich. Even if I wasn't employed by JetBlue, I'd rather pay to fly on them than some of the other carriers for the same reasons I shop at one place instead of another. When I was still at Pinnacle, I often opted to jumpseat on jetBlue rather than non-rev on Delta despite the fact I could see Delta loads and had a higher (by a little bit) boarding priority than I did on JetBlue. I wasn't alone, either. I accept that not everyone's opinion is the same as mine, and I'm cool with that.
 
kellwolf said:
As for the business class seats....you did read the stats, right? Our coach seats are pretty comparable to business class on most domestic carriers. The EMS seats are even better.
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First, there's a bit more to business class than seat pitch, such as boarding and deplaning first, free drinks, better food options, etc. But more importantly, I'm a fat-ass, so it's not as much about seat pitch as it is about seat width. :)

As for thinking our people are better, I'm simply going on my past experience with Delta.
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I think you're letting your dislike for how Delta treated your last airline cloud your perception of their service. I've never been treated anything but wonderfully by Delta people. Even the fNWA stews seem to have a bit more spring in their step nowadays.
 
I never understood why everyone's fascinated with getting on the airplane first.

Other than sitting down and getting out of the way, the less time spent in the airplane, the better, as far as I'm concerned.
 
kellwolf said:
Sigh. Who books the flights? Hint: it's not the regionals. The majors are responsible for the bookings and over bookings. NOT Mesa, Skywest and ExpressJet. I'm pretty sure Delta knows how many seats are on a CRJ. On RARE occasions, you can put the overbookings on a regional partner if a seat is inop or there's a swap from a -700 to a -200 or something similar. Anything other than that, and it's on the people selling the tickets.



I think at this point, if I gave you stats and figures that said the sky was blue you'd say it was green, I give. You win.
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I presume regionals are more likely to be weight restricted than their mainline brethren. So when bad wx or hot temps or other factors weight restrict a flight, a non over sold flight becomes over sold. Add in that when you only have a pool of 30-70 from which to solicit volunteers or hope they misconnect/not show up; it's easy to see why regionals have higher numbers than mainline.

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This thing went 9 pages? The answer is simply NO for anything offline.

Own metal? Maybe, but not likely.
 
PeanuckleCRJ said:
It's as bad as the LUV zombies at this point!
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Nah, nobody's that bad. If I'm still working here next spring, I'll have to take some video for you of the "Message to the Field," or as I call it, the Party Rally. Such mindless adoration of a corporation for no justifiable reason I have never witnessed before in my life, and I hope never to again. It's just downright scary. They've got the scientologists beat in the brainwashing department.
 
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