DC8 Video, funny in a way, sad in a way....

OK I didn't really see any rules seriously broken. The entire first part of the video is filmed from the first jump seat. The landing (which is definitely not Miami - no Windmills or terrain like that near Miami) is filmed by someone else from the very back jumpseat. There are five guys in that cockpit!

Typical for freight, always moving crews around, or letting somebody ride home.

As for the glideslope warning, well they get that while they're still turning final. For all we know that could have been a test.

The last "sinkrate" bothers me a little, but there was only one, and hey, they're freight. They don't have any pax in the back complaining about dive bombing an approach.

But they need to pay the pilots a little better so that captain can get his teeth fixed :)
 
To get a sink rate anouncement like that he must have been diving for the runway. Also, something fairly unusual, he took his hands off the throttle to flare the jet...then put them back on the throttle quadrant after landing. I don't like that...always keep a hand on the throttles!

Other than that...what a goofy captain. I don't mind having some fun...but as I've posted before...keep a professional demeanor...as the boss starts to let loose...others will follow...discipline and attention to detail will decline...and errors will go unmitigated. I know...because that's when I historically make the most mistakes...when flight discipline wanes.

Looked like they got down to business tho, after their goofy cruise skit.
 
One rule nobody mentioned is that when a pilot leaves the cockpit, the remaining crewmember must wear the oxygen mask. I believe I have this rule correct. You can see the F/O is not wearing the mask when the Captain returns to the cockpit from showing you the potty.
 
bob loblaw said:
One rule nobody mentioned is that when a pilot leaves the cockpit, the remaining crewmember must wear the oxygen mask. I believe I have this rule correct. You can see the F/O is not wearing the mask when the Captain returns to the cockpit from showing you the potty.
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I am not sure of the wording or the specifics of the rule but for a three-pilot cockpit it's not the same. I've jumpseated on a few DC-10 and 747-200F flights where nobody donned the mask the entire flight with various pilots up and walking around.

DE727UPS or Doug or whoever else can clarify this though.
 
Only if you're above FL250. I think the FAA is chaning the rule to a higher altitude.

I don't remember if that rule applies to a three-crewmember cockpit or not. I haven't plumbed on the 727 for almost seven years. Damn I'm getting old!
 
Fun and pretty innocuous stuff. More like the "good old days". Gear down at 1000' get those last flaps in, banking towards the runway, just one "sink rate" warning. Pretty good call-out discipline.

But not for public consumption. I wouldn't think any company would be comfortable having that out there, with the friggin' N number displayed!

Love the 8.
 
Doug Taylor said:
Explain?
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I didn't feel that this guy was funny at all. The humor he uses is lame. There were some comments that made me believe this guy is a jackass. He kept repeating himself while acting like someone with major issues. I understand this might be part of his act, and if so it doesn't surprise me that he is only "semi popular" on the internet.

That's why I made that opinion.
 
Nick said:
I am not sure of the wording or the specifics of the rule but for a three-pilot cockpit it's not the same. I've jumpseated on a few DC-10 and 747-200F flights where nobody donned the mask the entire flight with various pilots up and walking around.

DE727UPS or Doug or whoever else can clarify this though.
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It applies when one pilot is left in the cockpit.
 
Wow that was quite interesting to watch. I had no idea that pilots fooled around that much up at cruise. But I think that guy would drive me crazy if I had to spend several hours in the cockpit with him. Hopefully he is not always like that off camera.

"welcome to my jeeeett."
"Had some pretty good dam foooood though"
"Annnyway there is not a lot of footage of me driving around my jet"
 
"Wow that was quite interesting to watch. I had no idea that pilots fooled around that much up at cruise"

Only speaking from my experience, we don't.

"But I think that guy would drive me crazy if I had to spend several hours in the cockpit with him"

You can almost see it in the F/E's eyes that he doesn't think this video camera thing is a very good idea.
 
Soon Scott was working as a Flight Instructor, then a Commuter Pilot and then made it to the top of his field being a Captain on a DC8 Jet flying worldwide for a large cargo company. Then one day the in the madness of Corporate America, the company laid off all the workers and Scott needed to find his life again.
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I would like to continue to create. Perhaps a project on "Disabled Life" or "People with Spinal Cord Injuries". I would also like to have a show where I Interview MY favorite Rock Stars with Special Features for MTV or VH1. And I have a concept to do an undercover story about "Freight Dogs", The behind the scene life of Cargo Pilots and show the Public the Abuse of This Industry.
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Can't be that bad of a guy. At least he didn't PFJ!


Mike
 
Incase you don't understand the second quote above.

.....after high school at the age of 18 Scott's life changed forever when he sustained a Spinal Cord Injury from a motorcycle accident at a concert. He was told that he would never walk again. Scott defied all odds and began to walk with the aid of crutches and two leg braces.....
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I'm not sure that the one "sink rate" call is that big of a deal. He exceeded 1000'/min just long enough to get the chirp. Not ideal, but not the end of the world either. The footage isn't good enough to tell more than that. They were clearly playing for the camera, so couldn't say that it would be like that other times.

The DC8 is pretty heavy, I have seen people do the two handed flare thing, although I never did myself.

I'm more curious about the UPS rule of "no cameras". I have spent a lot of time around your company, jumpseating and many friends there, and thought I'd heard about all the stories and quirks, but that's a new one on me!

I have been onboard a few of your flights where various "antics" occurred, as happens at every other carrier, so I wouldn't be too quick to say that something like this would never happen at your airline (and that applies to ANY airline!).
 
The company has a "no cameras, no recorders" rule on property. Most guys could care less and do it anyways. Recorders to protect the innocent at the hearing. Cameras come out at various times. But, the company would FRY a crew that made a video like this one.

Now, that being said, guys have posted some great pics at our union website of various sorts of things that were obviously taken on property. Those guys have no problem having their names associated with those pics. So, I'll say, it's just one of those company policies that must be hard to enforce and most guys could care less.

On a side note, we also have a no alcohol on property rule. Do you guys have that? Can't even bring a bottle of vodka back from Warsaw in your bag...
 
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