Dassault Falcon 20E5 - Fatal 2 - 10/5/2021

[fholbert]

Date:	05-OCT-2021
Time:	5:44
Type:	Dassault Falcon 20E-5
Owner/operator:	Career Aviation CO opf Pak West Airlines
Registration:	N283SA
MSN:	83
Fatalities:	Fatalities: 2 / Occupants: 2
Other fatalities:	0
Aircraft damage:	Written off (damaged beyond repair)
Category:	Accident
Location:	near Thomson-McDuffie County Airport (HQU/KHQU), GA - United States of America
Phase:	Approach
Nature:	Cargo
Departure airport:	Lubbock Preston Smith International Airport, TX (LBB/KLBB)
Destination airport:	Thomson-McDuffie County Airport, GA (KHQU)
Investigating agency:	NTSB

Narrative:
Pak West Airlines flight 887, a Dassault Falcon 20, N283SA, was destroyed when it impacted trees and terrain while on approach to Thomson-McDuffie County Airport (HQU/KHQU), Thomson, Georgia.
The captain and first officer were fatally injured.


Sources:

McDuffie County Plane Crash Kills Two

N283SA Flight Tracking and History - FlightAware

 

[GypsyPilot]

Dang. It looks like this was a cargo conversion?

 

[Roger Roger]

Dang. It looks like this was a cargo conversion?

Is anyone even still flying pax in a Falcon 20?

 

[SteveC]

From the article;
“Cooper and her husband, Ernie Rogers, live on a stretch of Wrightsboro Road in McDuffie County that has a curve in the road. That curve has claimed a few trucks in its day. The other thought that crossed her mind was a truck had overturned in the roadway causing the noise.

Rogers said the plane was traveling east, hit the tops of pine trees in the adjoining property before crashing head on into the pine trees lining their driveway.”

Dang…night freight run and the ILS GP and PAPI both Notam’d.

 

[Box hauler]

This is pretty sobering. I’ve got about 400 hours in this specific airplane for the same operator so it brings me chills to see this. It’s operated by Sierra west out of El Paso flying auto parts. Flying insanely fatigued and pushing it on fuel is a daily occurrence in that business .RIP

 

[TUCKnTRUCK]

Is anyone even still flying pax in a Falcon 20?

Yes, the highest time F20 is based next to us in MHT. Plane is in great shape. There was an article about it a while back. The pilots have an ungodly number of hours in it, and their MU2’s.

Dassault works to keep it flying but it’s definitely getting hard for them.


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[NovemberEcho]

Is anyone even still flying pax in a Falcon 20?

is FA20 the designator? I work them into TEB all the time, although no idea what they’re carrying

 

[GypsyPilot]

is FA20 the designator? I work them into TEB all the time, although no idea what they’re carrying

Falcon 2000? That would make sense for TEB, lots of them there.

 

[bimmerphile]

Falcon 2000? That would make sense for TEB, lots of them there.

no that's F2TH iirc

 

[mightynimbus]

Dang. It looks like this was a cargo conversion?

Nothing gets past you, inspector.

 

[Skåning]

The McDuffie County Coroner’s Office identified the victims as Raymond Bachman, 73, of Fountain Hills, Ariz., and Claude Duchesne, 63, of El Paso, Texas. Both were pilots of the plane that was carrying cargo, according to federal investigators.

Flying late night IMC isnt easy but even more so for 73 and 63 year olds

 

[Burrito]

Yes, the highest time F20 is based next to us in MHT. Plane is in great shape. There was an article about it a while back. The pilots have an ungodly number of hours in it, and their MU2’s.

Dassault works to keep it flying but it’s definitely getting hard for them.


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Is that the Keller guys up there still? Didn't think they still had the Falcon; I know their MU2s are alive and well. Can still hear them in my sleep.

 

[fholbert]

More on N283SA accident.

The final ADS-B data point (located 1.1 nautical miles from Rwy 10 threshold) showed a descent rate of -1,600 feet per minute at 700 MSL (200' AGL) and a ground speed of 133 Kts. The Field elevation is 500.9' MSL. Lowest permitted decent on any approach to Rwy 10 is 400/1.

 

[GypsyPilot]

no that's F2TH iirc

Thanks. So there’s a bunch of those that operate into TEB? Crazy, I didn’t know they were still so popular.

 

[bimmerphile]

Thanks. So there’s a bunch of those that operate into TEB? Crazy, I didn’t know they were still so popular.

I think Dassault Falconjet is there, maybe they do a lot of mx?

 

[Box hauler]

is FA20 the designator? I work them into TEB all the time, although no idea what they’re carrying

it’s DA20.

 

[NovemberEcho]

it’s DA20.

ah you’re right I remember I’ve worked one or twoof those and was very suprjsed when the Diamond tagged up doing 180kts off the runway.

There must be different variants cause the FA20 is also a Falcon 20 and there’s plenty of them flying.

 

[CFI A&P]

ah you’re right I remember I’ve worked one or twoof those and was very suprjsed when the Diamond tagged up doing 180kts off the runway.

There must be different variants cause the FA20 is also a Falcon 20 and there’s plenty of them flying.

Dassault makes a 10, 20, 100 & 200. IIRC, one of those had a prototype that was supersonic.

The 2000 designation for ATC is F2TH.

 

[TUCKnTRUCK]

Is that the Keller guys up there still? Didn't think they still had the Falcon; I know their MU2s are alive and well. Can still hear them in my sleep.

Loud and proud those MU2’s are. They still have the 20, although it seems like it’s apart more than together these days.


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[TUCKnTRUCK]

I think Dassault Falconjet is there, maybe they do a lot of mx?

Sales and support fleet.


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