CRM classes in the Southwest USA?

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jdawdy

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Anyone know of a CRM class that a private pilot could take somewhere in the southwest, preferably Arizona/Nevada/New Mexico?
 
I know ASU and Embry-Riddle offer those courses as part of their aviation programs. You might be able to just take the classes without enrolling for the entire degree program.

You could also drop into places like Pan-Am and see if you could take one of their CRM classes......

I've heard that medical and nursing students are also taking basic CRM courses. This is purely third hand information, but dropping into a local nursing school wouldn't hurt....
 
bdhill1979 said:
Communist Resource Management?:D
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Yup! How to stock up for and fight the revolution. I was hoping you could also help teach a course on tactics that we could use on flanking the capitalist pigs when the glorious revolution comes.

Oh and how to catch fish too, if you're not too busy.
 
Uh, dude, you're a private pilot. I don't think you need a CRM class. But, if you really want to I can give you short class right now: don't be a jerk and value everyone's input. There you go, free of charge.

CRM is kinda going out of style with the airlines. The new thing is Threat and Error Management. It is CRM without flight attendants.:p Seriously, it is what the name implies. Consciously thinking about what threats or traps there are that can get you into trouble. Simple as that.
 
I'll still teach you a CRM course with beer as payment! I'm even a CFI and I'll endorse your logbook for it.
 
jtrain609 said:
Yup! How to stock up for and fight the revolution. I was hoping you could also help teach a course on tactics that we could use on flanking the capitalist pigs when the glorious revolution comes.

Oh and how to catch fish too, if you're not too busy.
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John, you need a Kalashnikov first, then we can talk trouting.
 
College of Southern Nevada.
UVU.
.............buuuuuut. it's pointless unless it's part of a degree. You should get that sort of training at the first job where they need you to use it :)
 
slushie said:
College of Southern Nevada.
UVU.
.............buuuuuut. it's pointless unless it's part of a degree. You should get that sort of training at the first job where they need you to use it :)
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True.

This will save a few $1000 for a non employment-related CRM course.

The flying pilot flies the airplane and communicates all changes.

The non-flying pilot, more or less, puts the whiffle ball on the tee and makes the flying pilot look brilliant.

Rinse...

Repeat.
 
Doug Taylor said:
True.

This will save a few $1000 for a non employment-related CRM course.

The flying pilot flies the airplane and communicates all changes.

The non-flying pilot, more or less, puts the whiffle ball on the tee and makes the flying pilot look brilliant.

Rinse...

Repeat.
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Pretty much that's what I learned...

You learn CRM in commercial courses.
 
Doug Taylor said:
True.

This will save a few $1000 for a non employment-related CRM course.

The flying pilot flies the airplane and communicates all changes.

The non-flying pilot, more or less, puts the whiffle ball on the tee and makes the flying pilot look brilliant.

Rinse...

Repeat.
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And I trust Doug's opinion, because he's got about as much PIC time as me. :D
 
Capt. Caucasian said:
CRM is kinda going out of style with the airlines. The new thing is Threat and Error Management. It is CRM without flight attendants.:p Seriously, it is what the name implies. Consciously thinking about what threats or traps there are that can get you into trouble. Simple as that.
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Kinda sounds like what the AF has been shifting too...operational risk management AKA common sense. Of course, common sense isn't so common, so not sure how that is all going to work out!

:)
 
Capt. Caucasian said:
CRM is kinda going out of style with the airlines. The new thing is Threat and Error Management. It is CRM without flight attendants.:p Seriously, it is what the name implies. Consciously thinking about what threats or traps there are that can get you into trouble. Simple as that.
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TEM is CRM with new terms and a new ppt slide show. And how does one manage errors? (and no, let's not go into and try to differentiate 'slips', 'errors' and 'mistakes' which some courses do. )
 
I always figure the biggest threats are Newton and Bernoulli. No matter what happens, you've got to remain cognizant of both.

Engine failure? N & B

Mountainous terrain? N & B

Eating the cheese plate after dinner? N & B... WRONG! Boyles.
 
jdawdy said:
Anyone know of a CRM class that a private pilot could take somewhere in the southwest, preferably Arizona/Nevada/New Mexico?
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You don't need a course unless you have money to burn and in that case, PM me and I will give you an address to send a blank check.

There are tons of info on line which will cost you zilch. The FAA has published tons of stuff as well as other agencies and as someone else noted, use all the resources available to you. I would add that another caveat and that is if your plan is not working or you are having to constantly patch your plan to make it work, get another plan. Also, be careful when the events are such that you have to think, "I believe I can make this work." That is a fairly good sign you are getting behind or you have a bad plan.
 
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