Coolest VLJ yet..
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Stone Cold
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Yeah, with these single engine jets coming out, it's going to be funny having all these non-military jet types with tons of SE jet time.
And, speaking as somebody who flies a single engine turbine every night, I'd rather have 2 engines on a jet. I've already been on one of our Lears when we ended up single engine. The Captain had 25000+ hours Lear time and it was his FIRST engine failure, the copilot's 3rd day in the Lear, and me riding in back. Go figure.
And, speaking as somebody who flies a single engine turbine every night, I'd rather have 2 engines on a jet. I've already been on one of our Lears when we ended up single engine. The Captain had 25000+ hours Lear time and it was his FIRST engine failure, the copilot's 3rd day in the Lear, and me riding in back. Go figure.
meritflyer
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Its surprised me though that SE jets haven't been around more in the civilian world. With the reliability of turbine engines these days, you'd think this would have already happened a long time ago.
Hope you do with out that tail section!meritflyer
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Kinda the same story for all of the light business turboprops like TBM, Meridian, and Pilatus eh?
JDE
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I think this is a sweet little jet. I at first was wondering about the whole single engine situation, but with some careful flight planning, I don't see it as a problem. If you lose it at FL350, I'm sure you'll be able to glide a good distance to find a place to land. It may not be where you want to go, but as long as you get there safe, who cares? Seems no different than a Pilatus PC-12, TBM700, Piper Meridian, etc... I'd feel more safe in a single engine jet than I would in a single engine piston...but that's just me.
meritflyer
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The SE jet will be a safe aircraft, IMO.
Take the Pilatus PC-12 for instance, it has one of the best safety records and guess what? Its a SE turboprop.
An engine fire, failure, or other adverse condition on a twin engine could just as easily cause an accident as it could on a single. You train two seperate ways to fly aircraft with one or two engines.
H46Bubba
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It was more structural issue with the engine being on the tail section. Most cowlings will absorb blade disentigration, but if the thing blows up, what will happent to the tail section? Can it withstand an engine explosion?
JDE
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I agree. Turbine reliability is so much greater than pistons. I think I've read it's going to have a Williams FJ44 engine, same "dash" model as on the CJ3. From the little I know of Williams engines, they're pretty good. As far as an engine explosion, that's a good question. It didn't take the tail off on United 282 (?) or whatever it was...
ComplexHiAv8r
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JDE
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Yeah, you're right. However, the tail stayed on and I highly doubt the PiperJet will come with hydraulic flight controls.
ComplexHiAv8r said:
Thanks!
I was close.
PositionAndHold
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Remeber one thing. SE Jet/Turbo prop means single engine systems. No engine; No Hydrulyics, No presurization, No electrical generation. I hope the batteries are good and your not to far from an airport with good weather. Because those fancy screens just went black. And you better get that mask on and get on out of the FL's fast. Oh and I hope it didn't catch fire and thats why it quit, there's another problem to deal with. So you can see how one guy even with the most automated A/C out there just got real busy, real fast. Hope he had good training.
Just my .02
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Andrew_VT
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I was going to use a sarcastic and slightly mean comment to respond to this.
Then I decided I should be polite and just say "I think the aircraft engineers have most of this covered pretty well, look at the Pilatus, it's a single engine turbine, and it does just fine"
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What about using a ram turbine for electrical generation? Not like it matters that much I don't think it would take to long to get down when the one engine goes. With all the single turbines though I think it will be fine, plus do you think they haven't thought of all the things that have been brought up in these posts?
350 kts at FL350? Good luck!
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