Commuting as a Dispatcher

When you work as a customer service agent or ramper and are commuting, where do you typically stay when at the work city?
I am not aware of any commuting ramp worker. Usually the hours are really long, and not commuter friendly. As a dispatch commuter with a set schedule, I have stayed in crash pads before (crashpads.com is a terrific site). The main issue I can see with commuting as a ground agent is IROPS, and management expectation of pulling overtime.

While I totally understand not wanting to move, you may need to reevaluate your priorities when it comes to getting into aviation. Many crash pads will accept flight attendants, pilots, dispatchers, and mechanics.
 
I am not aware of any commuting ramp worker. Usually the hours are really long, and not commuter friendly. As a dispatch commuter with a set schedule, I have stayed in crash pads before (crashpads.com is a terrific site). The main issue I can see with commuting as a ground agent is IROPS, and management expectation of pulling overtime.

While I totally understand not wanting to move, you may need to reevaluate your priorities when it comes to getting into aviation. Many crash pads will accept flight attendants, pilots, dispatchers, and mechanics.

I guess I should have been a little more specific. I didn't mean commuting so much as I meant visiting home a lot. I know you are asking what the difference is in what I am saying. I guess like for example going back to where I am from maybe 4-5 days out of a month. I would do my best to get home as often as I can, guess it wouldn't really be commuting compared to how FA's, Pilots, and ADX's do it. I applied for a part time ramper job, but I have no idea how many hours to expect lol.

I was also trying to get at the question if rampers are open to live in a crashpads as well.

Long story short, I applied to a ramp job but wasn't able to be considered since I was not yet a resident of that state. I was told about how Denver usually doesn't require that, so I was considering applying to theirs but I am not so sure because I have a g/f that lives here that I want to stay with. I never see and ramp or csa jobs for any big airlines here, it's only regionals that in all honesty sound super awful (I still applied for them though lol)

I know this is technically for ADX, but I felt a lot of you had good knowledge of ramp and CSA's so I figured it would be an ok place to include if that's ok with you guys.
 
You have defined commuting to a T. I consider myself a commuter and I only get to go home 5-6 days out of the month. I hate to steer anyone away from the industry but it sounds like you are not willing to make the sacrifices that this industry requires.

Commuting for a CSA/Ramp job is extremely difficult. I've known a couple that tried and it did not go well. Many times in order for it to work, you need to find a buddy and work double shifts. The starting pay for a CSA is rarely enough to live a commuter lifestyle with as well.

One last thing to consider is the girlfriend. We aviation folks are a very different bunch. The odd hours and days off. The non-reving to LA for a day just because you can. And all the other things that make us quirky and different from the mainstream. If she did not sign up for the aviation lifestyle when you started, you will have to have a serious heart to heart about how things are going to change and make sure she's onboard. It's a challenging life for all involved. I don't want to scare you, but there is a reason why a lot of aviation folk are on their second and third wives.

If you can truly make all the sacrifices that the industry requires of you, then I know you'll love it. Otherwise it will be difficult.
 
Damn I guess I did describe commuting then lol. Guess it depends on shift trades etc etc etc like you said. I am willing to make sacrifices to a lot of extent, but one that I won't make is losing my g/f over it. I can survive moving, being away from family and friends for a long while, working tough jobs for unfair pay... I just don't want to lose my g/f haha.

She is ok with the lifestyle, she understands that for example if I get a dispatch job, I am going to have to work from the SOC, and she is ok coming with me wherever that may be. Issue is right now that she still has this year and all of next to go in undergrad. After that she will be going to medical school, and is willing to go to a school near were I will be, wherever that is. I still haven't got my adx license or anything so I have a little time to worry about it.

I've been applying to any reasonable ramp or csa job near me to try and get my foot in the door, but it's only been a few days so I haven't heard anything yet..

I appreciate the advice and heads up. It's always good to talk to people with experience of my situation and then some, and this site has been great with so many wonderful people willing to help and deal with me.

I know it will be hard, but I also know that I will make it work, I am someone who refuses to quit, and will work hard and keep trying til I get to where I want to be. That;s kinda why I never shut up and always have question after question lol
 
Damn I guess I did describe commuting then lol. Guess it depends on shift trades etc etc etc like you said. I am willing to make sacrifices to a lot of extent, but one that I won't make is losing my g/f over it. I can survive moving, being away from family and friends for a long while, working tough jobs for unfair pay... I just don't want to lose my g/f haha.

She is ok with the lifestyle, she understands that for example if I get a dispatch job, I am going to have to work from the SOC, and she is ok coming with me wherever that may be. Issue is right now that she still has this year and all of next to go in undergrad. After that she will be going to medical school, and is willing to go to a school near were I will be, wherever that is. I still haven't got my adx license or anything so I have a little time to worry about it.

I've been applying to any reasonable ramp or csa job near me to try and get my foot in the door, but it's only been a few days so I haven't heard anything yet..

I appreciate the advice and heads up. It's always good to talk to people with experience of my situation and then some, and this site has been great with so many wonderful people willing to help and deal with me.

I know it will be hard, but I also know that I will make it work, I am someone who refuses to quit, and will work hard and keep trying til I get to where I want to be. That;s kinda why I never shut up and always have question after question lol

Hmmmm....life is indeed complicated. Speaking from one who has a niece and a nephew that recently finished medical school, she may have little choice over which school she picks. I am relying on what my nephew said here, but evidently it is very common to apply at a bunch of different medical schools (I think he applied to around 40 or so) and only be accepted by 1 or 2 of them (I think he may have had his choice of three different ones but it's been a while so I can't remember for sure.) Also, when you have no experience dispatching you likewise can't be too picky as to where you want to take a job - you need to get a job with someone that is hiring and interested in you to get experience so that you can move on to a major eventually (assuming that is your goal.) And even when you move to a major, you don't get your pick of offers to choose from between Southwest, United, American, Delta, etc. You once again have to go with who makes you an offer.

This by no means is meant to discourage you from attending dispatch school or your girlfriend from attending medical school. Once she graduates medical school I am sure she will have more options about where she does her residency, etc....I know that my nephew and niece both did. And once you start dispatching, commuting is easier (assuming you work for a 121 carrier that is listed in CASS) because then you can jumpseat on your own and other carriers. However, the odds of you getting a dispatch job in the same city or area that your girlfriend gets accepted to medical school are...rather slim, I'll say that.

This is a good career field that I still enjoy working in almost 20 years after I "got the bug" and went to Sheffield. However, getting to choose where you live to do your job is not one of its advantages.
 
If dispatching is really what you want to do I'd advise you to just go to Sheffield. Er. school and just get right into the field instead of trying to get other airline experience. True, that experience can only help you but I've seen enough people who six weeks prior did not know what an airplane was land dispatch jobs within their first year of graduation. I'm confident that if you put every foot forward like you seem to be doing for ramp/CSA that you woukd be one if those success stories too.

You'll make more money as a dispatcher at a regional to start than you will at any ground iOS job to start.
 
Hmmmm....life is indeed complicated. Speaking from one who has a niece and a nephew that recently finished medical school, she may have little choice over which school she picks. I am relying on what my nephew said here, but evidently it is very common to apply at a bunch of different medical schools (I think he applied to around 40 or so) and only be accepted by 1 or 2 of them (I think he may have had his choice of three different ones but it's been a while so I can't remember for sure.) Also, when you have no experience dispatching you likewise can't be too picky as to where you want to take a job - you need to get a job with someone that is hiring and interested in you to get experience so that you can move on to a major eventually (assuming that is your goal.) And even when you move to a major, you don't get your pick of offers to choose from between Southwest, United, American, Delta, etc. You once again have to go with who makes you an offer.

This by no means is meant to discourage you from attending dispatch school or your girlfriend from attending medical school. Once she graduates medical school I am sure she will have more options about where she does her residency, etc....I know that my nephew and niece both did. And once you start dispatching, commuting is easier (assuming you work for a 121 carrier that is listed in CASS) because then you can jumpseat on your own and other carriers. However, the odds of you getting a dispatch job in the same city or area that your girlfriend gets accepted to medical school are...rather slim, I'll say that.

This is a good career field that I still enjoy working in almost 20 years after I "got the bug" and went to Sheffield. However, getting to choose where you live to do your job is not one of its advantages.

Yeah that is a concern of mine about the medical schools. Not to gloat or sound like a "proud mom" but she is insanely smart, has a 3.99 GPA in bio/pre-med with honors, has a ridiculous amount of volunteer hours and extracurricular, and some pretty good references, so I guess it's our hope that she can go pretty much wherever she wants to go for the most part. Sometimes life doesn't always work that easily so guess we will see.

I do get that you don't get much choice in dispatching starting out, thanks to you and the awesome people on the site who have taken me from being completely unsure of the whole process to a pretty solid understanding of it at least in respect to ADX. I have come to learn reading from you all that it's definitely something that, especially when you start out, you can pretty much be anywhere and you have to pay your dues and all.

I was actually going to school for CTI once upon the time, so fortunately at the least I already had expectations that I conceivably could start out pretty much anywhere... although I do get the difference is there really is only a few locations period where you do ADX, not like CTI where they are all over the place.

A lot of my closest friends are ironically in medical school and just graduated, so I do have a solid grasp on the whole residency thing fortunately from seeing them experience. I am currently doing my best to save money because I would like to go to AGS as early as January if it works out. Fortunately they have an online program for most of it and only a 6 day intensive in person part just 3.5 hours from where I live. In doing CTI, I did get to learn some things that I am sure will at the least help me out in school, such as aviation weather, fundamentals of atc, physiology and human factors of flight, elements of flight theory.. things like that, so I hope that it will aid me in learning the material for ADX, although I am sure it's a lot to learn and after that no matter where you go you learn a ton more and so on. I look forward to the challenge that I am sure will be.... well challenging lol.

I appreciate your words again, it's so nice to have people who don't mind telling us amateurs how it is etc. Not to sound like a gushing little kid, but my hopes are that some day I can do the same for someone else.
 
If dispatching is really what you want to do I'd advise you to just go to Sheffield. Er. school and just get right into the field instead of trying to get other airline experience. True, that experience can only help you but I've seen enough people who six weeks prior did not know what an airplane was land dispatch jobs within their first year of graduation. I'm confident that if you put every foot forward like you seem to be doing for ramp/CSA that you woukd be one if those success stories too.

You'll make more money as a dispatcher at a regional to start than you will at any ground iOS job to start.

I too think that sounds awesome. A lot of the reason I am looking hard to try and attain a ramper or csa job is that for now, I don't have the money saved up for ADX school yet, and my current job is driving me insane and I don't feel I have much job security there. I don't make a ton more than I would as a bag slinger, so I don't know I guess I am trying to find something new and exciting, especially since my likely ADX school is actually mostly online (I'd still have to study my arse off I know) so honestly I could work and sling bags for at least the next 8 months or so.

Thanks for the words of advice!
 
You won't be able to put away really any money as a ramp or CS worker, especially if you are commuting to your work city and have to still pay for housing, transportation, etc. in that location.
 
You won't be able to put away really any money as a ramp or CS worker, especially if you are commuting to your work city and have to still pay for housing, transportation, etc. in that location.

Yeah that's a good point. Would be lovely if there were ever openings where I'm at... never any for the big liners anyhow. What would have been nice for the one job I applied for is I would have a place 20min from the airport to stay free, and I don't have rent to pay where I'm at if I didn't want either since I'm month to month. Unfortunately that job won't workout.
 
MT said:
Consider working for an FBO. It may not be airlines, but it will give you aviation experience and that will help you in the future applying for dispatch jobs.

This! Excellent advice.
 
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