Jpax
Well-Known Member
No concessions, many QoL improvements, decent pay raises, health care premium reductions, increased deadhead pay and per diem, finally have company contribution to retirement, increased sick and vacation accrual.
No concessions, many QoL improvements, decent pay raises, health care premium reductions, increased deadhead pay and per diem, finally have company contribution to retirement, increased sick and vacation accrual.
chrisreedrules
Master Blaster
surreal1221
Well-Known Member
Jpax
Well-Known Member
He is!
surreal1221
Well-Known Member
The ERJ side has no CPAs beyond 2017. CRJ operation goes into the early 2020s.
Total pilot group size is in excess of 3000 I believe.
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chrisreedrules
Master Blaster
I'm pretty sure we will end up parking our 200's, with PDT doing all the AAG 50 seat flying.
motormadness24
Well-Known Member
I thought you were done with this forum @chrisreedrules? Minus for non work related subjects.
surreal1221
Well-Known Member
9 November 2015
Fellow pilots,
Today, CommutAir announced that they will begin flying up to 40 EMB-145s for United Airlines in 2016. There is concern from the pilot group that these are LXJT aircraft, but that is not the case. Although at least 10 of these aircraft may be former LXJT 145s that have already been returned to United, our fleet size will not change because of this announcement.
The bigger news, however, is the announcement that CommutAir has entered into a “Career Path Program” with United Airlines that will allow qualified CommutAir pilots to move to United after certain requirements are met. Although United is a minority owner of CommutAir, this is the first flow-through/preferential interview agreement with United for a non-wholly-owned carrier.
While this is good news for the CommutAir pilot group, it creates a lot of questions and frustration for your XJT MEC. To us, it seems that United Airlines is spending a lot of money and taking a large risk by helping CommutAir start a new certificate when they need only look to LXJT for unparalleled performance and a well-established EMB-145 program.
The last few weeks have been frustrating as our pilot group has seemingly been “kicked in the teeth” over and over. Since the SkyWest announcement of 19 more 175s to be flown for Delta, I have had the opportunity to meet with Chip Childs, president of SkyWest Inc.; Wade Steel, chief commercial officer for SkyWest Inc.; and Brad Rich, vice president of United Express operations for United Airlines. My message to them was clear - morale is heading toward an all-time low, attrition is on the rise, especially to non-major airlines, and the lack of CPAs past December 31, 2017 give little hope of an extended future for the LXJT pilot group.
I also told them that, without some good news, I was concerned that XJT would end up unable to fulfill even our current CPA obligations, let alone extensions or new dual class aircraft. Through both meetings, first with SkyWest Inc. management then with SkyWest and United management, they outlined their long-term plan for XJT. After these discussions, I am cautiously optimistic for the future of LXJT.
During these conversations, both Chip Childs and Brad Rich outlined their plans for LXJT. Those plans include the intent to extend all 157 EMB-145s that will be on property at the end of 2015. They also include the addition of dual class aircraft over the next couple of years as United Airlines expands their use of 175s to the east coast. Our part in this plan is to get a ratified pilot contract that includes 70-seat and above rates.
To that end, the Joint Negotiating Committee continues to meet with the company to negotiate changes to the Transition and Process Agreement (TPA). Scope is a major focus in those discussions as both XJT and ASA want to make sure that SkyWest Inc. is not able to whipsaw us against each other. The way to do that is to make certain that the XJT and ASA pilots are protected from the possibility of whipsaw, not only from SkyWest, but also from each other. We expect the TPA negotiations to be complete by November 17.
Your XJT MEC will meet in Houston November 18-19 to get a presentation from the XJT Negotiating Committee (NC) on the TPA negotiations. The XJT MEC will also provide direction to the XJT NC during that meeting on many aspects of a contract extension. Please reach out to your local council representatives to ask questions and share your thoughts on this possible path forward.
In Unity,
//signed//
Dave Allen
ExpressJet MEC Chairman
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Fellow pilots,
Today, CommutAir announced that they will begin flying up to 40 EMB-145s for United Airlines in 2016. There is concern from the pilot group that these are LXJT aircraft, but that is not the case. Although at least 10 of these aircraft may be former LXJT 145s that have already been returned to United, our fleet size will not change because of this announcement.
The bigger news, however, is the announcement that CommutAir has entered into a “Career Path Program” with United Airlines that will allow qualified CommutAir pilots to move to United after certain requirements are met. Although United is a minority owner of CommutAir, this is the first flow-through/preferential interview agreement with United for a non-wholly-owned carrier.
While this is good news for the CommutAir pilot group, it creates a lot of questions and frustration for your XJT MEC. To us, it seems that United Airlines is spending a lot of money and taking a large risk by helping CommutAir start a new certificate when they need only look to LXJT for unparalleled performance and a well-established EMB-145 program.
The last few weeks have been frustrating as our pilot group has seemingly been “kicked in the teeth” over and over. Since the SkyWest announcement of 19 more 175s to be flown for Delta, I have had the opportunity to meet with Chip Childs, president of SkyWest Inc.; Wade Steel, chief commercial officer for SkyWest Inc.; and Brad Rich, vice president of United Express operations for United Airlines. My message to them was clear - morale is heading toward an all-time low, attrition is on the rise, especially to non-major airlines, and the lack of CPAs past December 31, 2017 give little hope of an extended future for the LXJT pilot group.
I also told them that, without some good news, I was concerned that XJT would end up unable to fulfill even our current CPA obligations, let alone extensions or new dual class aircraft. Through both meetings, first with SkyWest Inc. management then with SkyWest and United management, they outlined their long-term plan for XJT. After these discussions, I am cautiously optimistic for the future of LXJT.
During these conversations, both Chip Childs and Brad Rich outlined their plans for LXJT. Those plans include the intent to extend all 157 EMB-145s that will be on property at the end of 2015. They also include the addition of dual class aircraft over the next couple of years as United Airlines expands their use of 175s to the east coast. Our part in this plan is to get a ratified pilot contract that includes 70-seat and above rates.
To that end, the Joint Negotiating Committee continues to meet with the company to negotiate changes to the Transition and Process Agreement (TPA). Scope is a major focus in those discussions as both XJT and ASA want to make sure that SkyWest Inc. is not able to whipsaw us against each other. The way to do that is to make certain that the XJT and ASA pilots are protected from the possibility of whipsaw, not only from SkyWest, but also from each other. We expect the TPA negotiations to be complete by November 17.
Your XJT MEC will meet in Houston November 18-19 to get a presentation from the XJT Negotiating Committee (NC) on the TPA negotiations. The XJT MEC will also provide direction to the XJT NC during that meeting on many aspects of a contract extension. Please reach out to your local council representatives to ask questions and share your thoughts on this possible path forward.
In Unity,
//signed//
Dave Allen
ExpressJet MEC Chairman
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chrisreedrules
Master Blaster
maybe... maybe not. The internets is strong with this one.
wheelsup
Well-Known Member
I would think it's more how SkyWest treats them.
Kingairer
'Tiger Team' Member
One list!? @jtrain609
Seggy
Well-Known Member
From my understanding the Commutair TA is excellent and in some ways beats XJT. This shifts longevity.
XJT has been in a downward spiral since 2006. The fact that their merger with ASA has been going on as long as it has it simply deplorable. Why would any major airline want a deal with them?
I am really happy for the Commutair Pilots. Some excellent folks over there.
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Maurus
The Great Gazoo
I think you had to leave because you found a better job.
I personally was wrong about how PSA's contract would hurt the industry. Based on recent TAs being passed it sure does seem like PSA's contract isn't an issue.
As for Envoy, their CRJ's were likely going to be transferred regardless of the PSA vote as it still would have been a large chunk of savings with PSA's unmodified contract.
CFIT99
I'm probably commenting ironically...
nothing to do with why they were the catalyst....missing the point completelyI think you had to leave because you found a better job.
I personally was wrong about how PSA's contract would hurt the industry. Based on recent TAs being passed it sure does seem like PSA's contract isn't an issue.
As for Envoy, their CRJ's were likely going to be transferred regardless of the PSA vote as it still would have been a large chunk of savings with PSA's unmodified contract.
chrisreedrules
Master Blaster
I'm not so sure.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Nothing personal, just business. They're too expensive and someone else can do it cheaper.