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Seeking info about this operation...
Does it have legs?
Where does it stand v. competition?
Is it growing?
Is it capitalized sufficiently to grow/remain competitive?
Any other general info if you happen to work there... QOL, Pay, quality of operation, equipment, maintenance, etc, etc?
Thanks.
 
Damn, does anybody around here still work at C5? A while back there were at least a half dozen of us, have we all moved on? If so, I give everyone a big

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So, I take this to mean probably not a place anyone would recommend? Anyone got any specifics? :confused:
 
So, I take this to mean probably not a place anyone would recommend? Anyone got any specifics? :confused:
Not necessarily. I left over a year and a half ago so I can't say how things are today. That being said, I enjoyed my time at CommutAir so here are a few of my thoughts.

I went to C5 after the Pinnacolaba bankruptcy and seeing my number in the furlough projection. Before Colgan I was at Cape Air for a couple years. The CommutAir pilot group was very, very much like what I'd seen at 9L and 9K so it felt like home almost from the get-to. The crews were awesome and there were very, very few people it was hard to get along with.

Both on the line and inside the training department the attitude was always very positive. I was fortunate enough to spend some time teaching ground school and the driving goal was always to get everyone through and be as constructive as possible.

Thanks to LOA's the contract was improved on over the years.

The Dash is a phonemal plane to fly. While the Q400 will always have my heart for it's speed (and using a jet bridge :)), the 200 drove like a sports car in comparison.

Management seemed very realistic about what their market opportunity was and what the challenges were. They like the Dash because the margins make it profitable. Whether that profitability means they can increase the burden rate of their pilot group to a point where they'll attract pilots in the new market remains to be seen. It will be very, very challenging to attract new pilots without industry leading pay, a real and fast moving flow agreement, or an ad-initio program that beats the competition on time-frame.

CommutAir has a niche market that should make them money barring a black swan event. If they don't try and grow too quickly, and if they can figure out how to attract pilots, they should be successful. "Should" being the operative word here.
 
Seeking info about this operation...
Does it have legs?
Where does it stand v. competition?
Is it growing?
Is it capitalized sufficiently to grow/remain competitive?
Any other general info if you happen to work there... QOL, Pay, quality of operation, equipment, maintenance, etc, etc?
Thanks.

Sorry for the slow reply, I don't check JC much. I've been here four and a half years, two and a half of that as a captain. Management here is very quiet and terrible about communication, but the few things they do tell us is that United is very happy with us, even though we occasionally have our VERY bad reliability days. We have been getting better, though, and last month we hit our performance goals of 99% completion and 83% on time, the first time in two years. CLE MX closing was a disaster for us, and we lost a lot of talented and dedicated employees. Growth is the carrot leading the donkey and has been for a long time. Rumors are infinite, fueled by pilots, station managers, the owner, mechanics, gate agents, etc. Everyone says were getting E145s, a flow, big pay raises, E175s, etc. They are never ending and have yet to be fruitful. Are we capitalized sufficiently? Who knows, private company with very private management. I'd wager yes, though. The plane is dirt cheap to run, and I imagine we have a very, very low load factor to break even. We just spent 100k before tax on two crew room printers, so I imagine money isn't extremely tight.

I've overall have enjoyed my time here. Reserve is abysmal. It really is. I spent longer than almost all on reserve, save a few captains. 8 months as an FO, and 27 months as a Captain. I do live in base, and sat reserve at home most of my time. I flew 3.5 to 40 hours a month on reserve, and probably averaged around 25 or so. It took me just shy of 2.5 years as a captain to get 1000 121 multi turbine PIC. The employees, for the most part, are great people. Our FO's and Captains are incredible people to fly with. Some of the new guys hitting the line are in need of a lot of help, possibly caused by the lack of candidates willing to come here, we're not getting the best? The Dash demands you to fly it and know your flows. This has been an extremely weak area in a select few new pilots. If you don't want to actually fly, go to an E175. You will work a lot more than a RJ pilot. Some of our FA's think they run the show and have no problem running over new captains or FOs. It'll become clear very quickly who they are. Some will try to cheat you into paying for their meals, some will come turn the seatbelt sign on themselves during preflight, others will tell you what to do. Sometimes they need a professional, friendly reminder that this is the Captains and the FOs airplane, then the FAs.

I can't speak to FO pay, but I guess it's $30/hr now? Some guys credit 100+ hours a month. Captain pay is livable, expect just shy of 50k a year before taxes on reserve. A bit higher once you get a line. Maintenance is a rollercoaster. I've done a month of line flying where I had zero delays and zero write ups, but then I did a three day this week where every flight was 2 hours late and had a write up. Winter is a MX nightmare, these planes do not like the cold. Engines run away, boots break, the cabin falls apart, avionics fail, etc. The heat works great, the AC is abysmal.

Would I recommend coming here? If you live around EWR or IAD, yes. Definitely. Commuting? Eh, see what your more local options are. My QoL has been pretty good since I live in base. 16 off is great, some weekends, most holidays, but take a week away for commuting and that's pretty rough on the home life.

It's a very fun plane to fly, and you'll have the rest of your career to fly jets. The Q200 will do anything you want it to, and the Q300 is pretty much the same, just a bit slower in the climb. The training department is great, and they want you to succeed. Our new contract is supposedly going to be out in November. I have high hopes for it, because the company is in dire need for new pilots, which I hope gives our negotiating committee the power play when coming to new terms.

Any other questions, let me know.
 
We just spent 100k before tax on two crew room printers, so I imagine money isn't extremely tight.

Two $50,000 printers?!? I think you can buy a Kinkos style printing press for about $30,000. Is this a typo? Even two $5,000 printers for a crew room seems insane.
 
Two $50,000 printers?!? I think you can buy a Kinkos style printing press for about $30,000. Is this a typo? Even two $5,000 printers for a crew room seems insane.

Not a typo. They're the massive Toshiba eStudio857 printers. And the best part is, they need a ten minute warm up, so the first pilots to print paperwork of the day don't even get to use them! :)
 
Not a typo. They're the massive Toshiba eStudio857 printers. And the best part is, they need a ten minute warm up, so the first pilots to print paperwork of the day don't even get to use them! :)
Oh my! That's insane. I think your guys on first year pay should devise an on-the-side business printing business cards, wedding invitations, bar mitva invitations, small town newspapers, high school year books, etc. using those swanky printers. Someone should get an ROI on those things :)
 
Oh my! That's insane. I think your guys on first year pay should devise an on-the-side business printing business cards, wedding invitations, bar mitva invitations, small town newspapers, high school year books, etc. using those swanky printers. Someone should get an ROI on those things :)
They did an ROI. They thought ROI meant "really outrageous investment". ;)
More seriously, I'm pretty sure they added the "coin operated" option. $0.50 for your flight plan. $0.50 for your Wx. $0.50 for your brief. $0.50 for your manifest. Heck, at $4 per flight, with only 50 flights per day, that thing will be making money for the company after a little over a 6 months. Zis is an example of what I call schmaaartness.
 
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Not a typo. They're the massive Toshiba eStudio857 printers. And the best part is, they need a ten minute warm up, so the first pilots to print paperwork of the day don't even get to use them! :)
Nobody buys those type of printers, you lease them with a service contract. And I think the cost if somebody were to buy them is closer to 100K each.
 
I echo what Jpax said. As for reserve, there's a new open time system that has made it harder for a junior reservist to pick up flying, but it is a fairer system, and as an FO, you'll probably be doing your share of flying on reserve anyway. Living on base is the key. If you don't mind working on days off, you're much more apt to build time. It takes some work and creativity to maximize it tho. The ones who pick up flying 90% of the time are the ones who live on base. Ignore the rumors and life will also be easier. If the company is up to something, they will reveal it eventually. Otherwise, you're being set up for disappointment.
 
I've been here two years and it's not a bad place really. The small group (180 pilots) means you see many of the same faces. It's a dysfunctional family atmosphere. Reserve sucks. I'm in November upgrade class and I'm hating that I'll go back on reserve. We just don't have good reserve use or coverage. Even lineholders can have crap schedules if PBS isn't right or you've got too many requests. Seems that 6 months for FO reserve and at least a year for CA, though many of the guys I know sat nearly two years of CA reserve.

The Dash is quite a plane. Yes, it's slow, but you can do nearly anything ATC needs and not be out of your comfort zone or the planes. Maintenance has turned a corner, but these are still 15 year old turboprops that fly a lot. It's a good plane, but it's not a push button plane. As someone said to me once "This is the last airliner you fly that you'll be able to just FLY." No FADEC, no EICAS, no ACARS or CPCDLNK(?)

I tell people to come here if they don't have a nearby base. When I started at C5, CLE was a base and was the best I could do (two years ago was a completely different regional hiring environment). RAH didn't call me until I was 6 months in to C5. I stayed at C5 when I should have went to RAH. But would I be upgrading at RAH after two years? No, and it's what I need to get my career moving again.

The rumor mill is strong with new aircraft and opportunities. Something is in the works because the company wants nearly double the flight attendants we have, more than just to cover attrition. People apparently have signed "no tell" statements. But as with most things, I'll believe it when I see it.

As the company will tell you, this isn't a career place. It's a put in your time and leave place. This could change, but I don't think that mindset will.
 
I'll echo what everyone else has said in that C5 is a great place to start your airline career if you live in base. I live in base, and this job is cake even when you're on reserve. I spent 3 days on reserve as an FO (old scheduling system :)) and about 16 months on reserve as a Captain (8 of which were as a CQF = hell on earth). Winter time is slow on reserve, but in the summer I was easily crediting 100+ hours, especially picking up a day of flying here or there. Even in March and April of this year I was able to get over 100 hours of credit, but then again I live in base so getting done late or starting early is not a concern to me because I'll always make my commute home. I've been signed off as a Captain for about 20 months now and have roughly 800 TPIC.

I wish there was a way to sell this company to potential applicants on the people that we have here. The PEOPLE are what makes this airline great. We are a hard working group, we get the job done. We are also a group that enjoys to get a few drinks after work as well, and have a good time doing that. We all know each other, and we're a tight knit group. We look out for each other and keep each other out of trouble. It's a great airline to work for in terms of the people. We have plenty of people that live locally that hang out outside of work too if that tells you anything. I just can't say enough about our employee group. Best in the industry as far as I'm concerned. There's the few problem children of course (like anywhere), but they're a known quantity and everyone pretty much knows what makes them tick (and what doesn't!).

Rumors are running rampant at the moment and hopefully we'll hear something "soon." I'm not holding my breath but with numerous people having signed NDA's, somethings gotta be up. I just hope it doesn't turn out like the other rumors...
 
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