Cockpit Door Breached in Under 2 Seconds (VID)

ZapBrannigan said:
The secondary barrier is a good idea - better yet would be another armored door between the passenger compartment and the forward galley. (Imagine an ATR on smaller scale). Safe room for the cabin crew, and solves the lavatory issue. Would it weigh more? Yup. Would it be expensive? Yup. But it would eliminate that particular threat.
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In Jails they're called "Sally Ports". The whole concept is you never have a door open to the out side world. We used them when we'd go from the secure to non secure area. One door opens, you step in, that door closes, the next one opens. They were controlled by an operator in a remote control center with cameras at every door. The doors are air operated and slid like a big pocket door. We also had them outside (rolling chain link gates) for vehicle entrances as well. Any way, it would be easily applied here. It would probably be the easiest most secure way of doing it. Even keeping them both closed during normal ops, if there is room. That way pax would never know when the crew door was opened. If you made it a sliding pocket door it wouldn't even take that much space, maybe 6-8" at the most. When I left the jail for XJT I always thought of this stuff when we'd have a pee break.
 
PositionAndHold said:
In Jails they're called "Sally Ports". The whole concept is you never have a door open to the out side world. We used them when we'd go from the secure to non secure area. One door opens, you step in, that door closes, the next one opens. They were controlled by an operator in a remote control center with cameras at every door. The doors are air operated and slid like a big pocket door. We also had them outside (rolling chain link gates) for vehicle entrances as well. Any way, it would be easily applied here. It would probably be the easiest most secure way of doing it. Even keeping them both closed during normal ops, if there is room. That way pax would never know when the crew door was opened. If you made it a sliding pocket door it wouldn't even take that much space, maybe 6-8" at the most. When I left the jail for XJT I always thought of this stuff when we'd have a pee break.
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The new hospital in town incorporated that concept into it's design/construction. When an ambulance crew brings in a patient who is under arrest or in police custody there is a bay within the ambulance bay with its own door that shuts itself off from the rest of the bay. Then a door opens into the secure "lockup" area where those patients are treated in a fully locked down facility within the ED. Is a nice design. On the other side of the lockup is a set of doors that go into the hospital. They work the same way. The sheriff unlocks the door, you step into a small room. The doors close. Then the other set of doors unlock and open to go out into the hospital.
 
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gliderboy said:
Gotta love American news and the people who produce it. Sometime before 9/11 they broadcast to the world that the U.S. is listening to Osama Bin Laden's phone and he immediately stops using it — who knows what that cost us. Now, they tell everyone how easy it is to get into an airliner's cockpit.
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AND THE NSA IS WATCHING YOU CHATURBATE.
 
The Secondary barriers were on United 777s right? Can anyone explain how they work or have pics?
 
Yeah, post pictures here and then set out cookies and put the tea on for the men in black helicopters and SUVs who will be joining you for lunch.
 
L-16B said:
The Secondary barriers were on United 777s right? Can anyone explain how they work or have pics?
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The ones that were on some of the 757's and 777's had a bar on one side that was pulled across the space/opening, attached to some fixed hardware on the wall across the space and from that bar and there were thick wires/cables that went across blocking the area. Kinda like a "clothesline" of sorts even though it's considered a door. If nothing else you could hang your pants on them to dry if you spilled something in your lap. lol

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Here's the patent that has some good diagrams and descriptions:

http://www.google.com/patents/US20060000946
 
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To be fair here, they never actually "breached" the cockpit door. They waited till it was open, and rushed the cockpit. Simple solution, come out with the Axe and chop chop chop! I've seen it where pax will stand not pay attention to the sign. I just ask the captain to make and announcement for everyone to be seated. there are simpler solutions than the expense of adding another door. How about FCCO(Federal Cabin Crew Officers). Imagine the shock when a FA busts out, say, a Tec9 or MP5K?

"I SAID SIT DOWN •!!! NOW!!!!!"
 
There is no way a secondary barrier, like the one above, would fit on the 145. The jumpseater usually plugs the door pretty well, if we have one.
 
A Life Aloft said:
The ones that were on some of the 757's and 777's had a bar on one side that was pulled across the space/opening, attached to some fixed hardware on the wall across the space and from that bar and there were thick wires/cables that went across blocking the area. Kinda like a curtain of sorts even though it's considered a door.

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Hot dang, ours is far better than that one.
 
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