Ciriii...Cirrusi...Cirruses...?

25,000MSL in a non-pressurized would be lovely.

RD
Eh...it's not that bad. Just make sure the mask is certified for higher than you're going, you've got plenty of O2 and don't wait until you get above 12,500 to put it on. Get it on early.

Yeah, the O2 is drying, so that sucks...but it isn't too uncomfortable up high. Now, no ice protection at FL250 would suck.

As far as ALL PILOTS who leave their strobes ON at night is just plain dumb!

This here is the problem folks. It isn't the plane, it isn't the checklist. It's the idiots in the front of it that can't figure out they should leave that switch off until they take the runway. You can't fix stupid.

-mini
 
YMarketing didn't put the chute in the airplane, but they sure have made the chute the airplane, and I think that's a disgrace to the plane and the stereotypes that it has made.

Agree totally, especially about the stereotypes. I'm glad it's there, just wish folks could get beyond it. Let's face it, the caps isn't going to help on the typical stall/spin/crash/burn base-to-final scenario.

My brief for the chute with students is "pull this if you think you're going to die. We'll probably still die, but at least we'll have tried everything. And for God's sake, if you're gonna pull it, pull it in time for it to do some good. Better yet, don't do anything stupid to begin with and it won't be an issue."

They get the point that the thing isn't a get out of jail free card pretty quickly.

As for the a/p, the newer Perspective's with Garmin's autopilot are much, much better. The old Stec rate-based a/p is annoying in turbulence and hand flying gives a much better ride. The attitude-based Garmin a/p is fantastic. I've flown 'em both with and without the yaw damper and can't really tell the difference. I'd love to see an STC to retrofit the older airplanes with Stec's attitude-based a/p.

Speed brakes (for the -22s at least, the -20s slow down just fine) would be tops on my list of improvements and then increased payload. The tarted up turbos are kinda porkers when you fill 'em full of gas and TKS fluid.
 
You can't fix stupid.

Amen. Hey, that oughta be on a bumper sticker or something.

Is the recommendation to turn strobes off on the ground at night written anywhere (other than here and in the collective psyche of the concious)? I keep finding people who point to 91.209 which says that they SHALL be on but "allows" the PIC to turn them off only in the interest of safety. There is an Advisory Circular (120-74) that spells it out better to 121 & 135 operators, but nothing that targets part 91.
 
There is an Advisory Circular (120-74) that spells it out better to 121 & 135 operators, but nothing that targets part 91.
Why can't you adopt it anyway? It's not an operating regulation, just a suggestion. I do it when flying part 91.

-mini
 
The FAA can kiss my ass if they ever give me crap for operating on the ground at night without the strobes on. They're the idiots that certified the thing without a red beacon, and I'm not going to compromise the night vision of my fellow aviators. I do, however, keep a sharp eye out for anyone that may walk toward the aircraft, especially if there is another aircraft on the ramp with engines running. Without the strobes, the nav lights may not be enough to get the attention of someone walking carelessly across the ramp.
 
yeah i Flight instruct in cirrus and Diamonds and we just shut them off when not on the runway or flying. We have position lights for night time.
 
The FAA can kiss my ass if they ever give me crap for operating on the ground at night without the strobes on. They're the idiots that certified the thing without a red beacon, and I'm not going to compromise the night vision of my fellow aviators. I do, however, keep a sharp eye out for anyone that may walk toward the aircraft, especially if there is another aircraft on the ramp with engines running. Without the strobes, the nav lights may not be enough to get the attention of someone walking carelessly across the ramp.


Thanks. I think it's mostly owner/operators that are guilty of this stuff, not pros. As someone pointed out above, the guy who bought the thing as an appliance is going to treat it as one. It has simple directions. You follow them. Thinking is unnecessary. The more I see of guys with more money than sense and airplanes, the less I wonder at some of the accident abstracts.
 
Thanks. I think it's mostly owner/operators that are guilty of this stuff, not pros. As someone pointed out above, the guy who bought the thing as an appliance is going to treat it as one. It has simple directions. You follow them. Thinking is unnecessary. The more I see of guys with more money than sense and airplanes, the less I wonder at some of the accident abstracts.

Cirrus is the cappuccino of airplanes. Popular and trendy...but feminine. I prefer Howard DGA's and such. No airframe parachute, tailwheel, big radial engine and a bad reputation. yum.
 
Cirrus is the cappuccino of airplanes. Popular and trendy...but feminine. I prefer Howard DGA's and such. No airframe parachute, tailwheel, big radial engine and a bad reputation. yum.

For those that read this the following should be noted:

The black substance in Waco's lungs is not from smoking Marlboro or Pall Mall but rather oil dripping from the radial engines that are always on his brain (or are his brain) :D
 
For those that read this the following should be noted:

The black substance in Waco's lungs is not from smoking Marlboro or Pall Mall but rather oil dripping from the radial engines that are always on his brain (or are his brain) :D

That is true! When I got my cochlear implants things sounded strange at first, until my brain started to adapt. The first thing I heard that sounded "normal" to me, and thus let me know that the implants were amazing, was an R985 attached to a Stearman. What an amazing noise. I wish I could get a ring-tone that was a radial engine.
 
You must be running rich of peak. 75% power LOP I get around 195 True, and burn 15.3 GPH, bump it up to 85% and and its a 200 knot airplane, The book says 212 is max airspeed. Another thing is I normally cruise 16 thousand or higher which gives it a higher TAS. Minimum vectoring altitude is usually above 14 K here in the rockies. And I also got the Turbo which is a bit faster.

That is a good speed, for that fuel burn. I wish I could get a little bit of time in a Cirrus, just to compare it to a DA-40. I just finally got around to getting checked out in the DA-40. Its such a nice plane, for what it uses engine wise. I was running 140 KTAS at 8.3 GPH, while running 50 rich of peak. Not bad speed for something with an IO-360.
 
Why can't you adopt it anyway? It's not an operating regulation, just a suggestion. I do it when flying part 91.

I have, I do, and I will continue to attempt to convince others to do the same. I just thought I'd ask everyone here if anyone had heard of a recommendation published anywhere else so I could use it to beat on the head of the guy taxiing out in front of me with his strobes blasting. Usually I just point to that AC and don't tell anyone it's for 121 & 135. The AIM doesn't spell it out quite as well but it's a bigger book to beat people over the head with...
 
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