Check!!!! CHEEEECK!

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So Kristie and I are out with a friend and my fellow co-worker at happy hour down at a local Irish bar.

Well, she's literally from Ireland so wouldn't you meet your Irish friend at an Irish bar?

Anyway, we both fly for Southernjets and we're both on the 767 and we were laughing about some of the doofus new procedures we do in the airplane.

The "500' AGL 'CHECK!'" issue comes up. Whenever we're on approach and the GPWS calls "Five HUNdred..." the flying pilot says "Check!".

Why? No clue.

After all of these years, no aircraft has ever come barreling out of the skies when pilots haven't been saying "Check!" when the GPWS announces "500'".

So I'm barking "500!" and our friend is saying "Check!" repeatedly a few times and laughing our asses off.

Of course, beer makes everything funnier.

So a few more "500'!" "Check!" goes out and the waitress comes running over and hands us the bill and says, "Sorry we're really busy, but here it is".

Odd. Food's still on the table, beers are barely half empty and we just got our bill handed to us.

Then we figure out that as we're barking "five hundred!" "check!" a few times, the waitress probably thinks that we're rudely shouting for her to bring us the bill for the beer and food.

I dunno, I guess you had to be there! :)
 
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The "500' AGL 'CHECK!'" issue comes up. Whenever we're on approach and the GPWS calls "Five HUNdred..." the flying pilot says "Check!".

Why? No clue.

After all of these years, no aircraft has ever come barreling out of the skies when pilots haven't been saying "Check!" when the GPWS announces "500'".

It's one of the FNWA procedures we got. It's a verbal mark on the CVR to show at 500' the PF actually looked and made sure that they are flying a stabilized approach. At least that is what the LCA told me when I asked WTF?
 
Ahh, so just in case the DFDR shows a 4000 rate-of-descent and a 400 kts IAS, that the 500' "CHECK!!!" will save the day? :)
 
Ahh, so just in case the DFDR shows a 4000 rate-of-descent and a 400 kts IAS, that the 500' "CHECK!!!" will save the day? :)

Apparently so! It's stunning to know that we've operated so unsafe for the last 80 years. Thank God for the merger. I feel safer already.
 
It's one of the FNWA procedures we got. It's a verbal mark on the CVR to show at 500' the PF actually looked and made sure that they are flying a stabilized approach. At least that is what the LCA told me when I asked WTF?


It's actually not an FNWA call. They are having as much of a time with it as well.

They had a "200 to touchdown" call.

Apparently someone on the joint board wanted us to have a stabilized call, and that is what came to fruition. It's driving both FNWA and FDAL guys crazy, including us in standards. I don't think it'll last long beyond SOC as it currently stands.
 
Hey, if you see the guy responsible for the interim waypoint crossing procedures (the ones that just got changes), kick him where it counts.

Those went over like a brick when they came out.

"I see a duck!"

"Confirmed!"

"Duck duck goose!"

"Crosschecked!"

"Wannamingo!"

"Wannamingo Indeed! LNAV VNAV RVSM!"

(PNF will draw the second slash through the waypoint)

(Hey!!!!! what time did the FMC sent out for the next estimate when we were too busy babbling about non-sequitur flight data?)
 
You're not the only folks that say CHECK when the GPWS sez "Five hunnert".
 
Hey, if you see the guy responsible for the interim waypoint crossing procedures (the ones that just got changes), kick him where it counts.

Those went over like a brick when they came out.

"I see a duck!"

"Confirmed!"

"Duck duck goose!"

"Crosschecked!"

"Wannamingo!"

"Wannamingo Indeed! LNAV VNAV RVSM!"

(PNF will draw the second slash through the waypoint)

(Hey!!!!! what time did the FMC sent out for the next estimate when we were too busy babbling about non-sequitur flight data?)

Kick in the Jimmy, armed.

check.
 
"EASY VICTOR, EASY VICTOR, EASY VICTOR!"


Kinda reminds me of "Duck and Cover."

That's even doofusier.

Easy Victor! Easy Victor! Easy Victor! I need some covering fire on dog red, watch yer flank! One three two one... Easy Victor!
 
Kick in the Jimmy, armed.

check.

Technically, it's a silent item.

We had a LCA a few weeks ago talking about how more logical the checklist is now. So I asked him how we were able to shut down the aircraft without command and response all these years and how if it's logical, how come it's "Fuel Panel" on before start and "Fuel Pump Switches" on shut down? :)

Then I realized. We're still largely an airline run by Marines so you're not supposed to ask questions.
 
Why is it that they now make airplanes that are quiet unless they are dark, and procedures that now require a play-by-play for stuff you do all the time, unless something is broken and then it's mostly work-on-your-own and be quiet?
 
Awesome... Our company put a "10,000 sterile cockpit" on our descent checklist... And to make it better, if we run the checklist above 10,000 ft msl, we have to remain sterile at that altitude..... RRRRRRIIIIIIGGGHHHTTTTT. meow.
 
Exactly the point my friend brought up tonight. We've been trained on dark aircraft that quiet means everything is hunky dory and now we're yakking every 5 seconds.

Oh, and it's not "engine instruments checked" it's "thrust normal". Well, what if you're on a GE-powered aircraft and you're just reading RPM so there's technically no thrust indication? :)

And if we're forbidden from saying "throttles" and MUST say "thrust levers", how come we have "auto throttles"? :)
 
Technically, it's a silent item.

We had a LCA a few weeks ago talking about how more logical the checklist is now. So I asked him how we were able to shut down the aircraft without command and response all these years and how if it's logical, how come it's "Fuel Panel" on before start and "Fuel Pump Switches" on shut down? :)

Then I realized. We're still largely an airline run by Marines so you're not supposed to ask questions.


I wasn't a huge fan of our checklist set up when I first came over here. I was actually expecting something similar to the way nwa did it... boy was I in for a surprise.

The Easy Victor thing has a very long running history and is pretty logical when used correctly. It's going to be an adjustment for us to make sure to use it correctly.... just think how dumb they must think our stuff is after having to change 80% of their procedures!
 
I'm also still trying to get used to the 20-minute prior call too.
 
Exactly the point my friend brought up tonight. We've been trained on dark aircraft that quiet means everything is hunky dory and now we're yakking every 5 seconds.

Oh, and it's not "engine instruments checked" it's "thrust normal". Well, what if you're on a GE-powered aircraft and you're just reading RPM so there's technically no thrust indication? :)

And if we're forbidden from saying "throttles" and MUST say "thrust levers", how come we have "auto throttles"? :)

Let me just get it out.. I HATED "Engine instruments checked." wayyyy too verbose on the takeoff roll. When I saw "thrust normal" in the last phase I was thrilled.

There is no reason to be saying something that verbose on the takeoff roll. NWA only said "thrust normal" when there wasn't an FMA call (dc-9s or a/t inop). On the 75/76 they would simply say "80 knots, throttle hold."

Apparently we arent already looking at the power indications anyways....


The 20 minutes call makes a lot more sense instead of clicking on the seatbelt sign and "ding! was that initial?" every flight... Now there's no question.
 
Oh, and it's not "engine instruments checked" it's "thrust normal". Well, what if you're on a GE-powered aircraft and you're just reading RPM so there's technically no thrust indication? :)

Conrad owns all the Pratts, so I've never seen this mythical "EPR" gauge...if one even exists.

We just say "Thrust Set", but then when our airline was starting you were happy to have all 4 engines matched.
 
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