CFI Training Opt-out

[SIUav8er]

ATP can kick you out during any phase of the program and they will still put your picture up on their page when you get an airline job, I witnessed it with one kid who got kicked out.

lol! the only way they GET the pics is if you get hired with them or do the "jet course"...so if the guy didn't want is mugshot on their website, he shouldn't have sent in the picture (or let them take it during his jet course)

BTW, I think I know who you're talking about. That guy did some stupid #### and got caught. (rolled a seminole, filmed it then posted it on his Myspace)

 

[Gumps]

Meyers9163 speaks the truth in his post regarding the subject.

B.T.W. V1valarob, I appreciate your candor on this matter, however I think you could be hurting your argument about sub-par performance of ATPs instructors (in general) as compared to local fbo's.

If they caned you, (and you mentioned your IFR skillz were iffy),

"There is no way I would have been a good instrument instructor, I barely know the system myself. I cant teach it and would have definitely short-changed my students at ATP."-v1valarob

-And you now instruct at an FBO. What would that say about the standard of your fbo school vs. ATP?

This raises a question about responsibility for us. Who is responsible for our level of knowledge?

The bottom line is that no matter where we seek instruction the odds of getting the wise-sage-weather-hardened-instructor who can in-part all their knowledge is becoming almost impossible. We must study hard everything we can find on our subject. When we are given the opportunity to instruct others, it is imperative that a full effort is given. For us to turn pro at this hobby of ours we must hold ourselves to a higher standard than any FBO or academy.

 

[nkoenig]

The bottom line is that no matter where we seek instruction the odds of getting the wise-sage-weather-hardened-instructor who can in-part all their knowledge is becoming almost impossible. We must study hard everything we can find on our subject. When we are given the opportunity to instruct others, it is imperative that a full effort is given. For us to turn pro at this hobby of ours we must hold ourselves to a higher standard than any FBO or academy.

I agree

 

[BillH]

ATP is a self study program, You get what you put into it.

 

[v1valarob]

Meyers9163 speaks the truth in his post regarding the subject.

B.T.W. V1valarob, I appreciate your candor on this matter, however I think you could be hurting your argument about sub-par performance of ATPs instructors (in general) as compared to local fbo's.

Where did I say that ATP CFIs are sub-par compared to FBO CFIs?

If they caned you, (and you mentioned your IFR skillz were iffy),

"There is no way I would have been a good instrument instructor, I barely know the system myself. I cant teach it and would have definitely short-changed my students at ATP."-v1valarob

At the time I thought I was up to snuff on my material, now that I have actually begun instructing, I have realized that there is way more to it than you could ever imagine, instructing as a whole, that is. The types of questions and scenarios students come up with even at the primary level sometimes stump me, and I have to flat out tell them "lets go to the book" and this is the stuff I have been learning since day 1. No way can I teach instrument stuff, which far exceeds primary level learning.

-And you now instruct at an FBO. What would that say about the standard of your fbo school vs. ATP?

I dont know what the difference would be in comparing my FBO vs ATP. I did not do the PPL program with ATP, and all I currently instruct are primary students. I am not a II, so I cannot compare the instrument material we teach as compared to what I learned with ATP.

 

[Gumps]

Thanks for the clarification, I misread your previous posts.