CFI cut engine..

CFI cut engine. Keep flying the airplane, it will not fall from the sky like an helicopter:oops:............
 
Speaking from experience.....
I used to regularly shut down the engine during primary training in a Cessna 150, UNTIL the one time the engine would not restart, turning a simulated exercise into a real dead stick landing. We managed to land the plane on a dirt strip, just barely clearing trees on approach....had to remove a few leaves and twigs from the tail before restarting. The student learned a good lesson (fly the plane and land), and so did I (never completely cut the engine on a student...not worth the risk). Good bonding experience, though...we downed numerous beers together after that lesson.
 
I guess I have mixed feelings about it- and I do have a bit of glider time. Flying and especially flight training is constant risk analysis and weighing the risk of a maneuver against the possible benefits. Personally I don't see much benefit verses possible risk in this one, though as Mike pointed out if done properly I don't really see the risk as being outrageous. If doing this I would definitely leave myself some outs- for example a longer strip in case something is botched.
 
I think I would leave this one to Bob Hoover. Pretty sure he had better MX than I do...

I don't think that it is especially reckless, but even the small risk isn't really necessary either.
 
During my commercial single-engine add-on, the examiner pulled the mixture, then we did a stall and then dead sticked it into Sebastian, FL from about 3000'. Done with proper supervision with proper precautions (no traffic, plenty of runway, etc), then I don't see it as a problem.
 
I have mixed feelings.

Most new CFI's are incapable of this kind of risk management and lack of judgement and experiance.

However, I believe they should be capable of teaching this safely. The CFI's who teach this usually know the risk, and are great at gliding airplanes. Guantee you that a student will have a better sucess rate at a real emergency if his/her instructor practices this.

On another thought, I know a guy who would take a 172 and turn off the engine and fly it like a glider on windy days. He could stay afloat for hours at a time using a ridge for uplift along a mountain side.
 
empire said:
Speaking from experience.....
I used to regularly shut down the engine during primary training in a Cessna 150, UNTIL the one time the engine would not restart, turning a simulated exercise into a real dead stick landing. We managed to land the plane on a dirt strip, just barely clearing trees on approach....had to remove a few leaves and twigs from the tail before restarting. The student learned a good lesson (fly the plane and land), and so did I (never completely cut the engine on a student...not worth the risk). Good bonding experience, though...we downed numerous beers together after that lesson.
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There are also stories of pulling the throttle to idle, then quitting when the instructor goes to add the power. We always need to be prepared for a real engine failure when practicing these.
 
USMCmech said:
Yes absolutely, but that one factor by itself is not a reason to dismiss a good training opportunity.

Re: landing single engine airplanes dead stick.

During my primary training, one of the old timers at my home airport took me up in his plane, pointed out a crop duster strip, turned off the mags, put the key in his pocket, and told me to land it.

When I was flying skydivers the '67 182 would run the fuel lines dry during the descent as all the fuel flowed to the front of the tank. After the first few times learning how to manage the energy, I would just point the nose down, cross the runway at Vne and 200 AGL, pull up to the downwind, turn base and final, land and coast up to the fuel pumps.
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I think most jump pilots hve done that too!

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