Catch Me If You Can
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mtsu_av8er
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Are there any movies on Lifetime where a male isn't the villain?
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Not one.
Are there any movies on Lifetime where a male isn't the villain?
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Not one.
Jayrock
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I also watched the movie Frequent Flyer. It's a pretty good movie. I don't know much at all about the real life version except that it was a cargo pilot and that all three of his now ex-wives ended up suing each other for his money.
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Awww, that's a horrible movie. Nobody should be allowed to see that....
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Agreed!!!
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I also watched the movie Frequent Flyer. It's a pretty good movie. I don't know much at all about the real life version except that it was a cargo pilot and that all three of his now ex-wives ended up suing each other for his money.
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Awww, that's a horrible movie. Nobody should be allowed to see that....
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Agreed!!!
Ryan110175
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--Factual errors: Abagnale escapes from the plane by sneaking out through the bathroom into the luggage bin and out through the landing gear cavities. There is no way to get from the bathroom into the landing gear. --
That's interesting, the story is based on a real person, and follows what he actually did, but I wonder if the above sequence was just a little dramatic addition. Perhaps the actual guy never escaped that one last time.
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I read the book and I recomend it highly. There's so much that they don't even cover in the movie. Frank was actually saved by a Sweedish judge who allowed to board a flight to the US instead of letting Italy exrtradite(sp?) him. He actually did escape through a hatch in the lavatory upon landing in NY, but it didn't connect to the landing gear. What that guy pulled off is just amazing, and he was a teenager when he did this.
--Factual errors: Abagnale escapes from the plane by sneaking out through the bathroom into the luggage bin and out through the landing gear cavities. There is no way to get from the bathroom into the landing gear. --
That's interesting, the story is based on a real person, and follows what he actually did, but I wonder if the above sequence was just a little dramatic addition. Perhaps the actual guy never escaped that one last time.
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I read the book and I recomend it highly. There's so much that they don't even cover in the movie. Frank was actually saved by a Sweedish judge who allowed to board a flight to the US instead of letting Italy exrtradite(sp?) him. He actually did escape through a hatch in the lavatory upon landing in NY, but it didn't connect to the landing gear. What that guy pulled off is just amazing, and he was a teenager when he did this.
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Are there any movies on Lifetime where a male isn't the villain?
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Lifetime movie formula: Strong mommy, philandering wealthy husband, custody battle with husband, but the woman pulls thru, gets custody and financially ruins the husband.
Movie always ends with destitute husband saying "Hon, I love you!" and the ex-wife/mommy says, "No you didn't... You only loved yourself"
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Are there any movies on Lifetime where a male isn't the villain?
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Lifetime movie formula: Strong mommy, philandering wealthy husband, custody battle with husband, but the woman pulls thru, gets custody and financially ruins the husband.
Movie always ends with destitute husband saying "Hon, I love you!" and the ex-wife/mommy says, "No you didn't... You only loved yourself"
Roll credits.
flyguy
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I'm pretty sure the runway 44 statement was put in there on purpose. A naive remark like that would kind of accentuate the fact that he wasn't a pilot.
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I disagree. Frank Abagnale (both the character and the real person) was extreemely detail oriented. He may not have actually been able to fly the plane, but jumpseating as many times as he did, I'm sure he would have known about how runways were numbered. The guy passed the Louisiana Bar exam after just 2 weeks of hard studying (the real Abagnale actually did that). Takes most people four years of Law School. I'm sure he knew a thing or two about flying.
What I think happened is it was meant to be "runway 4" but there was a typo in the script and there were simply no pilots around who knew there was a mistake. Also, not many people just watching the movie would know it is a mistake. Heck, even most pilots I've talked to never noticed it. Therefore it would not accentuate the fact that he is not a pilot, nor would it be percieved as a naive remark.
I'm pretty sure the runway 44 statement was put in there on purpose. A naive remark like that would kind of accentuate the fact that he wasn't a pilot.
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I disagree. Frank Abagnale (both the character and the real person) was extreemely detail oriented. He may not have actually been able to fly the plane, but jumpseating as many times as he did, I'm sure he would have known about how runways were numbered. The guy passed the Louisiana Bar exam after just 2 weeks of hard studying (the real Abagnale actually did that). Takes most people four years of Law School. I'm sure he knew a thing or two about flying.
What I think happened is it was meant to be "runway 4" but there was a typo in the script and there were simply no pilots around who knew there was a mistake. Also, not many people just watching the movie would know it is a mistake. Heck, even most pilots I've talked to never noticed it. Therefore it would not accentuate the fact that he is not a pilot, nor would it be percieved as a naive remark.
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The guy passed the Louisiana Bar exam after just 2 weeks of hard studying (the real Abagnale actually did that). Takes most people four years of Law School. I'm sure he knew a thing or two about flying.
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It's been awhile since I read the book, so someone correct if I'm wrong, but I think the real story is that he failed it twice, but was able to con someone into giving him all of the correct answers for the questions he missed, and passed it on his third attempt. Not trying to imply that the guy wasn't brilliant, cause he was, just trying to straighten out the facts.
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Therefore it would not accentuate the fact that he is not a pilot, nor would it be percieved as a naive remark.
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That's very possible. On the other hand, I know that Mr. Abagnale was extremely involved as a consultant for this movie, and if he knew it was impossible for a runway 44 to exist one would think that somewhere during the long process of writting a script and producing the movie, an error like that would have been cought. I would also find it hard to believe that with half of this movie revolving around a guy being a fake pilot, that the producers would not have some sort of aviation consultant on the set to get the details right in the script.
Also, after reading the book I think that it was fairly evident that he did not spend a whole lot of time paying attention to what was going on in the cockpit, or what runway they were going to be landing on. He was a lot more interested in chasing the flight attendents around and shmoozing with first class passengers.
Spielberg and Hanks are extremely careful when it comes to getting the details right, and I think that this statement was just another example of a little detail that added a lot to Abagnales character development.
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The guy passed the Louisiana Bar exam after just 2 weeks of hard studying (the real Abagnale actually did that). Takes most people four years of Law School. I'm sure he knew a thing or two about flying.
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It's been awhile since I read the book, so someone correct if I'm wrong, but I think the real story is that he failed it twice, but was able to con someone into giving him all of the correct answers for the questions he missed, and passed it on his third attempt. Not trying to imply that the guy wasn't brilliant, cause he was, just trying to straighten out the facts.
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Therefore it would not accentuate the fact that he is not a pilot, nor would it be percieved as a naive remark.
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That's very possible. On the other hand, I know that Mr. Abagnale was extremely involved as a consultant for this movie, and if he knew it was impossible for a runway 44 to exist one would think that somewhere during the long process of writting a script and producing the movie, an error like that would have been cought. I would also find it hard to believe that with half of this movie revolving around a guy being a fake pilot, that the producers would not have some sort of aviation consultant on the set to get the details right in the script.
Also, after reading the book I think that it was fairly evident that he did not spend a whole lot of time paying attention to what was going on in the cockpit, or what runway they were going to be landing on. He was a lot more interested in chasing the flight attendents around and shmoozing with first class passengers.
Spielberg and Hanks are extremely careful when it comes to getting the details right, and I think that this statement was just another example of a little detail that added a lot to Abagnales character development.
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flyguy
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The guy passed the Louisiana Bar exam after just 2 weeks of hard studying (the real Abagnale actually did that). Takes most people four years of Law School. I'm sure he knew a thing or two about flying.
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It's been awhile since I read the book, so someone correct if I'm wrong, but I think the real story is that he failed it twice, but was able to con someone into giving him all of the correct answers for the questions he missed, and passed it on his third attempt. Not trying to imply that the guy wasn't brilliant, cause he was, just trying to straighten out the facts.
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Well, I've never read the book, but he himself said on the DVD that he passed the Bar, and didn't mention anything about conning his way to passing. Not to say that it didn't happen that way, its just that I figured the testimony I heard from his mouth would be accurate enough to mention on an online forum.
As for whether the runway 44 comment was intentional, you may be right. But it seems to me that not many people would get the joke, so it wouldn't really add much to the movie. Also, taking into consideration some of the other mistakes mentioned above, demonstrates that Spielberg and Hanks aren't perfect, and it seems more than possible that they could have overlooked this as well.
On the other hand, the real Abagnale one day was in a Pan Am uniform at an airport Pan Am didn't fly to, and when asked by other pilots what equipment he was on replied that he was on General Electric. Perhaps he did land a washing machine on runway 44 at LaGuardia. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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The guy passed the Louisiana Bar exam after just 2 weeks of hard studying (the real Abagnale actually did that). Takes most people four years of Law School. I'm sure he knew a thing or two about flying.
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It's been awhile since I read the book, so someone correct if I'm wrong, but I think the real story is that he failed it twice, but was able to con someone into giving him all of the correct answers for the questions he missed, and passed it on his third attempt. Not trying to imply that the guy wasn't brilliant, cause he was, just trying to straighten out the facts.
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Well, I've never read the book, but he himself said on the DVD that he passed the Bar, and didn't mention anything about conning his way to passing. Not to say that it didn't happen that way, its just that I figured the testimony I heard from his mouth would be accurate enough to mention on an online forum.
As for whether the runway 44 comment was intentional, you may be right. But it seems to me that not many people would get the joke, so it wouldn't really add much to the movie. Also, taking into consideration some of the other mistakes mentioned above, demonstrates that Spielberg and Hanks aren't perfect, and it seems more than possible that they could have overlooked this as well.
On the other hand, the real Abagnale one day was in a Pan Am uniform at an airport Pan Am didn't fly to, and when asked by other pilots what equipment he was on replied that he was on General Electric. Perhaps he did land a washing machine on runway 44 at LaGuardia. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
danielsexton
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[/ QUOTE ] Also, taking into consideration some of the other mistakes mentioned above, demonstrates that Spielberg and Hanks aren't perfect, and it seems more than possible that they could have overlooked this as well.
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I still like the movie, but no one is perfect a few more of the 50 listed mistakes include: (i love watching a movie, then reading the "goofs" and saying "I didn't even notice that, until now"
Anachronisms: Use of OCR-A character-reader font on letters, driver's license. It was first introduced in 1970.
Factual errors: French police cars in the '60s had amber (yellow) flashing lights and not blue as shown in the movie.
Errors in geography: When the French police come to catch Frank, the plate number of the car is 44 (number of the state) but for Montrichard plate number is 41 (44 is for "Loire Atlantique").
Anachronisms: When Hanratty is looking at a map of Europe trying to figure out where Abagnale is, Germany is unified in the map.
Anachronisms: We see TWA aircraft several times, all with the famous two stripe logo. That logo was not introduced until 1975, several years after when the movie was set.
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I still like the movie, but no one is perfect a few more of the 50 listed mistakes include: (i love watching a movie, then reading the "goofs" and saying "I didn't even notice that, until now"
Anachronisms: Use of OCR-A character-reader font on letters, driver's license. It was first introduced in 1970.
Factual errors: French police cars in the '60s had amber (yellow) flashing lights and not blue as shown in the movie.
Errors in geography: When the French police come to catch Frank, the plate number of the car is 44 (number of the state) but for Montrichard plate number is 41 (44 is for "Loire Atlantique").
Anachronisms: When Hanratty is looking at a map of Europe trying to figure out where Abagnale is, Germany is unified in the map.
Anachronisms: We see TWA aircraft several times, all with the famous two stripe logo. That logo was not introduced until 1975, several years after when the movie was set.
mtsu_av8er
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So, memorizing the answers to a written test is cheating?
Half the pilots I know are con-artists, then!!!
Half the pilots I know are con-artists, then!!!
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So, memorizing the answers to a written test is cheating?
Half the pilots I know are con-artists, then!!!
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Well I think the state bar and the FAA differ in the fact that the bar doesn't readily make all of it's test questions and answers available for applicants.
So, memorizing the answers to a written test is cheating?
Half the pilots I know are con-artists, then!!!
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Well I think the state bar and the FAA differ in the fact that the bar doesn't readily make all of it's test questions and answers available for applicants.
Ryan110175
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When Abnagnale received the letter from the BAR notifiying him that he failed, they attached the test. He then studied the quetions he got right and wrong. He finally passed on his third try. He did con the BAR, because they required a law degree in order to take the test, and Abagnale forged a Harvard law degree. Pretty smart guy, considering he was 18 or 19 when he did it.
flyguy
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He did con the BAR, because they required a law degree in order to take the test, and Abagnale forged a Harvard law degree.
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Negetive. I'm not sure what the book says about it but according to Abagnale himself on the DVD, he said that Louisiana did not require a law degree to practice, only a passing score on the state Bar exam. He leagally practiced law for a while, no cons involved in that one.
He did con the BAR, because they required a law degree in order to take the test, and Abagnale forged a Harvard law degree.
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Negetive. I'm not sure what the book says about it but according to Abagnale himself on the DVD, he said that Louisiana did not require a law degree to practice, only a passing score on the state Bar exam. He leagally practiced law for a while, no cons involved in that one.
Ryan110175
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He did con the BAR, because they required a law degree in order to take the test, and Abagnale forged a Harvard law degree.
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Negetive. I'm not sure what the book says about it but according to Abagnale himself on the DVD, he said that Louisiana did not require a law degree to practice, only a passing score on the state Bar exam. He leagally practiced law for a while, no cons involved in that one.
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I didn't see his interview on the DVD, but in the book he inquires what is required of him to take the Bar exam, and he is told he needs to take a transcript from his law school to the state examiner's office. Just going by what he wrote in his book. It's required now to take the Bar exam, however. Bar requirements
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He did con the BAR, because they required a law degree in order to take the test, and Abagnale forged a Harvard law degree.
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Negetive. I'm not sure what the book says about it but according to Abagnale himself on the DVD, he said that Louisiana did not require a law degree to practice, only a passing score on the state Bar exam. He leagally practiced law for a while, no cons involved in that one.
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I didn't see his interview on the DVD, but in the book he inquires what is required of him to take the Bar exam, and he is told he needs to take a transcript from his law school to the state examiner's office. Just going by what he wrote in his book. It's required now to take the Bar exam, however. Bar requirements
EDUC8-or
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Speaking of Inconsistencies...
Speaking of inconsistencies, there is this movie called Airplane. In it they show a Boeing 707 Jetliner several times in flight. The picture looks fine, but if you listen carefully it sounds like a plane with propellers not jet engines. I'm still baffled about that one.
Speaking of inconsistencies, there is this movie called Airplane. In it they show a Boeing 707 Jetliner several times in flight. The picture looks fine, but if you listen carefully it sounds like a plane with propellers not jet engines. I'm still baffled about that one.