Carrying Medical

BrewMaster said:
I'm not arguing with you but the way I see it is if you are logging time as a student pilot then you are exercising that certificate. I know you're not, but it just seems contradictory to their requirement of logging time for rating, currency, etc. You are only required to carry it solo, but the way the FAA sometimes does things is just annoying.
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So the way you see it, a new student should have his medical before ever taking a lesson or not be allowed to log the training? If so, I think your way is a bit more annoying than the FAA's.
 
where are you instructing, I have about 1000 hours but we don't have a multi at the flight school currently. I have about 40 hours in an MU-2B60 and MU-2B35, so baron time but thats about it
 
jtrain609 said:
It's not really a big deal if you lose the thing,
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tonyw said:
If you lose it, just go back to the doctor and get another one. It's not a big deal.
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Yes and no. The student pilot certificate (either FAA Form 8420-2 or FAA Form 8710-2) is the only pilot certificate that requires endorsements on the certificate itself. Losing the certificate also means the endorsements are required on the replacement certificate. Depending on the student’s situation, that my be simple or it may pose a problem.

mavsfan31 had the right idea when he wrote:
mavsfan31 said:
I just have mine in a folder in my flight bag. I never take it out to mess with so I always know it's there.
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jtrain609 said:
I carry my medical, commercial pilots license and flight instructors certificate all right next to each other in my wallet. I haven't flown an airplane in 5 months, but it all stays right there.
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CN94559 said:
I carry mine in my wallet next to my drives license and my AOPA card
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v1valarob said:
License, Medical, Radio Operators License, Union Card. All nicely placed in the wallet and never leave.
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:yeahthat:

You are required to have the medical, your certificate, and a picture ID when you fly, for most people the wallet hits all three.

I have my Drivers License, State ID Card, plus three other government issued photo ids, Pilot Certificate, Flight Instructor Certificate, Ground Instructor Certificate, Radio operators permit, medical, AOPA card, boss's credit card all in one place that I always have on me.
 
All info is in the wallet now, but when i was a student pilot, i taped an envelope inside the back cover of my logbook and put it in there. kept my medical nice & pretty, and i always had it with me. just an idea.
 
I just leave my medical in the logbook. It's too big and bulky for my billfold, that's for the license and I.D.
 
I have a small wallet (passcase) for pilot/instructor/mechanic certificate, driver's license, medical, radio permit, and debit card. I like this cuz it doesn't get uncomfortable when sitting at a desk and in an airplane all day.

All the other crap goes in a normal size wallet that stays in my flight bag.
 
To the OP whenever you get an answer...whether on JC or from your flight instructor always have/get a reference.

I agree that it should be carried at all times but let's take a look at what the FAR's say, I present FAR 61.3 and 61.23

Please notice that it says you must hold a 3rd class medical but later on in the FAR it says you must hold and possess.


Title 14: Aeronautics and Space
PART 61—CERTIFICATION: PILOTS, FLIGHT INSTRUCTORS, AND GROUND INSTRUCTORS
Subpart A—General
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§ 61.3

(c) Medical certificate. (1) Except as provided for in paragraph (c)(2) of this section, a person may not act as pilot in command or in any other capacity as a required pilot flight crewmember of an aircraft, under a certificate issued to that person under this part, unless that person has a current and appropriate medical certificate that has been issued under part 67 of this chapter, or other documentation acceptable to the Administrator, which is in that person's physical possession or readily accessible in the aircraft.



§ 61.23 Medical certificates: Requirement and duration.

(a) Operations requiring a medical certificate. Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (c) of this section, a person—
(1) Must hold a first-class medical certificate when exercising the privileges of an airline transport pilot certificate;
(2) Must hold at least a second-class medical certificate when exercising the privileges of a commercial pilot certificate; or
(3) Must hold at least a third-class medical certificate—
(i) When exercising the privileges of a private pilot certificate;
(ii) When exercising the privileges of a recreational pilot certificate;
(iii) When exercising the privileges of a student pilot certificate;
(iv) When exercising the privileges of a flight instructor certificate, except for a flight instructor certificate with a glider category rating or sport pilot rating, if the person is acting as pilot in command or is serving as a required flight crewmember; or
(v) Except for a glider category rating or a balloon class rating, prior to taking a practical test that is performed in an aircraft for a certificate or rating at the recreational, private, commercial, or airline transport pilot certificate level.
(b) Operations not requiring a medical certificate. A person is not required to hold a valid medical certificate—
(1) When exercising the privileges of a student pilot certificate while seeking—
(i) A sport pilot certificate with glider or balloon privileges; or
(ii) A pilot certificate with a glider category rating or balloon class rating;
(2) When exercising the privileges of a sport pilot certificate with privileges in a glider or balloon;
(3) When exercising the privileges of a pilot certificate with a glider category or balloon class rating;
(4) When exercising the privileges of a flight instructor certificate with—
(i) A sport pilot rating in a glider or balloon; or
(ii) A glider category rating;
(5) When exercising the privileges of a flight instructor certificate if the person is not acting as pilot in command or serving as a required pilot flight crewmember;
(6) When exercising the privileges of a ground instructor certificate;
(7) When serving as an examiner or check airman during the administration of a test or check for a certificate, rating, or authorization conducted in a flight simulator or flight training device; or
(8) When taking a test or check for a certificate, rating, or authorization conducted in a flight simulator or flight training device.
(c) Operations requiring either a medical certificate or U.S. driver's license. (1) A person must hold and possess either a valid medical certificate issued under part 67 of this chapter or a current and valid U.S. driver's license when exercising the privileges of—
(i) A student pilot certificate while seeking sport pilot privileges in a light-sport aircraft other than a glider or balloon;
(ii) A sport pilot certificate in a light-sport aircraft other than a glider or balloon; or
(iii) A flight instructor certificate with a sport pilot rating while acting as pilot in command or serving as a required flight crewmember of a light-sport aircraft other than a glider or balloon.
(2) A person using a current and valid U.S. driver's license to meet the requirements of this paragraph must—
(i) Comply with each restriction and limitation imposed by that person's U.S. driver's license and any judicial or administrative order applying to the operation of a motor vehicle;
(ii) Have been found eligible for the issuance of at least a third-class airman medical certificate at the time of his or her most recent application (if the person has applied for a medical certificate);
(iii) Not have had his or her most recently issued medical certificate (if the person has held a medical certificate) suspended or revoked or most recent Authorization for a Special Issuance of a Medical Certificate withdrawn; and
(iv) Not know or have reason to know of any medical condition that would make that person unable to operate a light-sport aircraft in a safe manner.
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TGatch said:
I just leave my medical in the logbook. It's too big and bulky for my billfold, that's for the license and I.D.
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Thats fine while you are a student pilot, but after getting your private, I advise people to NOT carry around their logbook. First reason, you might loose or damage it. Second, if you get ramped by the FAA, its just one more thing they can look through. Not that thats a bad thing, but why risk them finding a mistake?
 
Pilotforhire587 said:
look at it this way, on a solo flight if you dont have it on you and somebody finds out, you and your instructor are in deep S***
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you would think so. worked with an instructor who sent a student on a solo x/c. Student leaves logbook and medical on the ground, gets lost flying out of reno, flies over groom lake, and lands at indian springs airforce base, cutting off a plane on final approach, to make matters worse hes a foreigner, haha.

Anyway, the inspector came out, checked the student's logbook, let the student and instructor off the hook.


Moral is, if you forget it, as a student, they aint gonna do anything to you. Those big words that say student pilot certificate can get you off the hook for anything. So if you wanna screw up do it now. worst you can do is make your instructor's life a living hell.




But follow the rules.
 
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