CAP

[msmspilot]

Problem there is that any of their check pilots are going to be CFIs elsewhere. Since they don't get paid for doing any of this, there isn't much incentive to get them done.

Well, this is from a wing which swore they were in desperate need of pilots. And most of the check pilots do have a day job, but not instructing. I might buy it if it happened once, but multiple people over the course of two years? Someone had an hour.

 

[drunkenbeagle]

Well, this is from a wing which swore they were in desperate need of pilots. And most of the check pilots do have a day job, but not instructing.

They are always in "desperate" need of pilots. They justify having the planes by how many hours get put on them. More pilots = more hours on the aircraft. But hey, my Form 5 is about to expire, and I'm in no hurry to do another one. The last Form 5 was the last time I flew a CAP aircraft...

 

[Joe Gremlin]

Problem there is that any of their check pilots are going to be CFIs elsewhere.

Not true. Not all CAP CFI's are CFI's for a living. Some have lucrative careers outside of aviation and are CFIs simply because they want to be.

 

[Phantom017]

The whole purpose of "no primary training for senior members" is so that people dont join up get their PPL and take off. The odds are that if you already have your PPL when you join (or get it outside) that you will stick around and continue to contribute to your squadron/wing. Then you will be able to pick up additional training (IFR/COMM/ATP) at a greatly reduced rate through your squadron compared to a FBO or flight school.

 

[aloft]

Then you will be able to pick up additional training (IFR/COMM/ATP) at a greatly reduced rate through your squadron compared to a FBO or flight school.

:yeahthat:

Here in Utah, we just got our third G1000-equipped 182 fresh from the factory 3 weeks ago. It and the other two (both turbos) are available to members for training proficiency flying, timebuilding, etc, for a whopping $80/hr WET. You can't even touch a 30 yr old 172 for that in most places anymore. I saved a bundle getting my ratings beyond the PPL this way.

More importantly, I get to do cool stuff with that training, like participating in the search for Steve Fossett in '07, fighter intercept drills out in the restricted areas (though I suppose anybody could do that, consequences be damned ) and some military test flights I'm working on right now.

 

[Phantom017]

Wow that really is cheap. The school I was just teaching at had a '78 C-172R for $98/hr wet.

Its been a while since I've flown powered for CAP mostly did the glider thing. More fun to me. At those prices though might have to get back into it.

 

[Old Pete]

Problem there is that any of their check pilots are going to be CFIs elsewhere. Since they don't get paid for doing any of this, there isn't much incentive to get them done.

They don't get paid? Why not? You know that explains a lot of things. Once I told a CAP member I was a CFI he was actually courteous to me.

 

[aloft]

Why aren't they paid?

CAP is a volunteer organization. Everyone brings skills to the table, and they all volunteer their talents, whatever they may be. In addition to volunteer pilots, we have volunteer accountants, lawyers, doctors, IT gurus, etc all donating their time and talents to CAP. Why should it be any different for CFIs? They aren't *required* to give away flight instruction, but most do. Some just give checkrides, and that's ok. Doing checkrides alone keeps most of our CFIs busy.