Here's a related question: can a pilot who is not night current to carry passengers act as PIC at night with another pilot (non-CFI, not a required crewmember) aboard?
No. However, he may be sole manipulator of the controls, and make 3 T.O.'s & Lndgs, which also allows logging PIC, but he may not act as PIC. His night current pilot buddy is acting PIC.Here's a related question: can a pilot who is not night current to carry passengers act as PIC at night with another pilot (non-CFI, not a required crewmember) aboard?
Yes, so long as you (the safety pilot) are not acting as PIC and the flying pilot (who is acting as PIC) is night current.Can you act as safety pilot at night if you are day current, but haven't done your night landings to be night current?
Agreed. a pilot who is not a required crewmember (or instructor) is just a passenger.No. However, he may be sole manipulator of the controls, and make 3 T.O.'s & Lndgs, which also allows logging PIC, but he may not act as PIC. His night current pilot buddy is acting PIC.
Disagree. If the right seater is going to act as PIC then the left seater would qualify as a 'required crew member' only during that time when the left seater was under the hood. Therefore unless the left seater does the takeoff, landing and taxi under the hood, they are a pax during those portions of the flight even if they are sole manipulator. If the right seater isn't current for carrying pax at night, then the right seater can't act as PIC while serving as safety pilot at night.Yes, without providing any regs, you're allowed to act as PIC so long as you're not carrying any passengers. Your hood guy is not a passenger, he's a "required crewmember."
This implies that Paul could also log it as PIC. Somehow, I think the FAA would object to this.Agreed. a pilot who is not a required crewmember (or instructor) is just a passenger.
It's only the pilot who is =acting= as PIC who needs to be landing current.
Two pilots, one current, one not, go up and fly.
Paul PIC, the current pilot, is the pilot in command of the flight with duty, authority and responsibility. Paul allows his friend, Ned Notcurrent, to fly the airplane and perform the landings.
Ned gets to log the landings for currency and may even write the "sole manipulator" time as PIC in his logbook later when sitting at home with a beer in his hand. But even with all that, Ned is really just a passenger.
I like how he's always at home with a beer in his hand when he's logging his time. :bandit:time as PIC in his logbook later when sitting at home with a beer in his hand.
It does not imply that at all. You are making an inaccurate inference.This implies that Paul could also log it as PIC.
LOL. I use that phrase because I think it gives a good mental image of the difference between acting and logging.I like how he's always at home with a beer in his hand when he's logging his time. :bandit:
Why wouldn't the guy who is THE PIC for the flight not be able to log it as such?It does not imply that at all. You are making an inaccurate inference.
Because the regs don't allow it in the situation described.Why wouldn't the guy who is THE PIC for the flight not be able to log it as such?
Beacause 61.51 sets out all of the rules of logging flight time and you won't find a "box" that this fits in.Why wouldn't the guy who is THE PIC for the flight not be able to log it as such?
How about this one: can you log PIC (as safety) in a complex if you aren't complex endorsed?