Can a college grad get a CTI degree?

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HonuPineapple

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I have a question:

I'm a college grad. Can I do a program that will get me qualified as "CTI" without doing another full college program? Are there programs where I can just do the stuff required to get the CTI and not all the extra college stuff all over again?

Would something like the Beaver College certificate program be enough to qualify myself as CTI? Has anyone done this in a quick amount of time?

Is that even worth it? Do they have much of an advantage over OTS applicants?

Thanks!
 
HonuPineapple said:
I have a question:

I'm a college grad. Can I do a program that will get me qualified as "CTI" without doing another full college program? Are there programs where I can just do the stuff required to get the CTI and not all the extra college stuff all over again?

Would something like the Beaver College certificate program be enough to qualify myself as CTI? Has anyone done this in a quick amount of time?

Is that even worth it? Do they have much of an advantage over OTS applicants?

Thanks!
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Nope. I looked into it, in fact my college (Green River) was trying to do a "fast-track" non-degree CTI program but the FAA denied it. All CTI programs must be AAS degrees I believe.

BUT, you can most likely transfer all your gen-ed credits and just take the aviation classes. I did just that as I already have 2 other 2-year degrees and most of a 4-year.
 
nathanw said:
BUT, you can most likely transfer all your gen-ed credits and just take the aviation classes. I did just that as I already have 2 other 2-year degrees and most of a 4-year.
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Do you think it's wroth doing? Would that significantly improve my chances versus a public OTS application? I just submitted the PUBNAT3 one yesterday, that's my first application.
 
HonuPineapple said:
Do you think it's wroth doing? Would that significantly improve my chances versus a public OTS application? I just submitted the PUBNAT3 one yesterday, that's my first application.
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I think so. I'm taking every possible avenue. I'm fairly confident I will be hired OTS but if I don't have a FOL (firm offer letter) by my CTI grad date I can use that route.

Plus the FAA is apparently paying back student loans for new-hires. See this thread for some details (starting with the 106th post).
 
nathanw said:
I think so. I'm taking every possible avenue. I'm fairly confident I will be hired OTS but if I don't have a FOL (firm offer letter) by my CTI grad date I can use that route.
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Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking.

I don't have any schools that offer CTI around me...I think Beaver College would be the closest and that's out in PA (I'm in NJ by Philly). Do you know if any schools offer this stuff as distance ed?
 
I am going to school in Minnesota and will finish this Aug. The first semester of classes is online....there are three of them. Then three semesters up here in MN (summer semester) I go two days a weeks, every Tues and Thur from 8am-4. I went to school just to make sure that I would get a job if the OTS hiring didn't work out for me. It's a great school for training in a center. We don't have a tower simulator.
 
Embry-Riddle offers a minor in Air Traffic Control. The required courses (18 credits) must be taken on campus, but you could transfer many of your credits into one of their other degrees offered through their Worldwide campus, either online or through one of the Extended Campus locations. The cost for extended campus classes are comparable to state colleges, however the tuition for the on campus portion is somewhat expensive. As far as I know, all of the CTI schools have significant on-campus requirements, while paying non-resident tuition rates. After I finished my BS in Aviation Management through the ERAU Extended Campus, I decided it would be a better investment (time and money) to complete a Master's degree rather than moving to Daytona Beach to complete the classes and get on the CTI list with a minor in ATC. Best to diversify your skills rather that putting all your eggs in the FAA basket, so to speak.

ERAU ATC Minor (CTI)
http://www.erau.edu/db/degrees/m-airtrafficcontrol.html

Worldwide Extended Campus locations
http://fusion.erau.edu/ec/wwc/states.cfm

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2/15/08 OTS App
4/22/08 AT-SAT (Lisle, IL)
 
HonuPineapple said:
Do you think it's wroth doing? Would that significantly improve my chances versus a public OTS application? I just submitted the PUBNAT3 one yesterday, that's my first application.
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i would only say its worth doing if there is a CTI school located close to you. otherwise, with the shortage of controllers, theres no real reason to go to a cti school honestly...
 
You're crazy if you go CTI now. I nearly went 3 years ago and anticipated this mass hiring of OTS and decided to not go just days before classes began. This turned out great as I was able to finish my B.S. degree in Meteorology rather than another associates degree which is the norm of the CTI schools. In short, if you cannot get hired OTS given the current mass hiring, it is probably not meant to be. By the way, I think CTI is a great program, but just not necessary right now.
 
Vortmax said:
You're crazy if you go CTI now. I nearly went 3 years ago and anticipated this mass hiring of OTS and decided to not go just days before classes began. This turned out great as I was able to finish my B.S. degree in Meteorology rather than another associates degree which is the norm of the CTI schools. In short, if you cannot get hired OTS given the current mass hiring, it is probably not meant to be. By the way, I think CTI is a great program, but just not necessary right now.
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Cool. Yeah, between the bachelor's and some med school I think I'm uber-qualified for education. I'm just one of those people who worries about making sure I've done all I can to get in.

I just read in the Peterson's AT-SAT prep book today that they hire 1/3 Military retired ATC, 1/3 CTI, and 1/3 OTS. I was under the impression that military got preference, but that book made it sound like they do an even breakdown. Is that right? I know the military gets the +5 on the test.
 
HonuPineapple said:
Cool. Yeah, between the bachelor's and some med school I think I'm uber-qualified for education. I'm just one of those people who worries about making sure I've done all I can to get in.

I just read in the Peterson's AT-SAT prep book today that they hire 1/3 Military retired ATC, 1/3 CTI, and 1/3 OTS. I was under the impression that military got preference, but that book made it sound like they do an even breakdown. Is that right? I know the military gets the +5 on the test.
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first off, the book is next to worthless as far as prep'ing you for the test. secondly, military controllers get priority, then cti (as long as they are recommended by their school) then whatever is left over they hire off the street. the thing is, there is such a shortage that it really doesnt matter
 
thesoonerkid said:
first off, the book is next to worthless as far as prep'ing you for the test.
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My dad (professional pilot nearing retirement) basically taught me everything in that book in one day just in conversation. I opened the next book and it was nearly word for word. I could have saved my money and just listened to him talk...too late now.

What's the best way to prep for the test? I bought that green book off Amazon a few days ago and am waiting for it.
 
HonuPineapple said:
What's the best way to prep for the test? I bought that green book off Amazon a few days ago and am waiting for it.
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thats like asking people how should i invests my money?? there is no clear answer. you will get 10 different answers from 10 people. personally, i didnt do anything to prep for the test and got a 95...a friend of mine took the same approach and got an 86, and i know a guy who got a 100 on it (dont know if/how he studied)
 
HonuPineapple said:
My dad (professional pilot nearing retirement) basically taught me everything in that book in one day just in conversation. I opened the next book and it was nearly word for word. I could have saved my money and just listened to him talk...too late now.

What's the best way to prep for the test? I bought that green book off Amazon a few days ago and am waiting for it.
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Based on what others are saying, really your choices are to use the book or not... Some don't prepare at all and get 100s, while others study and get 70s-80s... With the education information in your signature, I think you should be alright. In your case, the book will probably just give you a general idea of how the test will be, rather than teach you anything new.
 
HonuPineapple said:
Cool. Yeah, between the bachelor's and some med school I think I'm uber-qualified for education. I'm just one of those people who worries about making sure I've done all I can to get in.

I just read in the Peterson's AT-SAT prep book today that they hire 1/3 Military retired ATC, 1/3 CTI, and 1/3 OTS. I was under the impression that military got preference, but that book made it sound like they do an even breakdown. Is that right? I know the military gets the +5 on the test.
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About 200 of the roughly 2,000 people accepted into the FAA for ATC last year were OTS.
 
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