C421 down near CA/NV border
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brown1
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Come to BFI and wash mine anytime....I will even let you fly it afterwords.
I bring my students to BFI for XC, Class B, and instrument experience... as well as Stellar Pizza on Airport Way. Count us in on this if you like! Be happy to Mr. Miyagi style a 421.
Jimflyfast
lurker first class
You show great taste in BFI restaurants. Give me a shout next time you are here and we will see what we can do. It is going down for annual June 1.
Jimflyfast
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If it had BS in it, I am sure I would have heard all about it from my peersIs that a peer reviewed source?
"Peers"? As in Derg? While he definitely has a finely attuned BS-detector, his BS-spreader is of even higher caliber!If it had BS in it, I am sure I would have heard all about it from my peers
Jimflyfast
lurker first class
Ouch!He is a coworker, not a peer
In truth, you use the word as it was actually intended and not its popular usage form, therefore you just passed my first "is he an engineer?" test. "Words mean things."
He is a coworker, not a peer
Now you know why that "mystery guy" kept pooping in your v-file at work!
Now you know why that "mystery guy" kept pooping in your v-file at work!
Always knew you were the Phantom Pooper.
Jimflyfast
lurker first class
Using English as a test for engineering skills is not how you would normally analyse the problem.
"Do stuff good, and do stuff good".....Should be "do stuff well" Just remember this little jingle. "It did me good when my girlfriend did me well" If you remember that, you will never mess up the adverb and the adjective again
"Do stuff good, and do stuff good".....Should be "do stuff well" Just remember this little jingle. "It did me good when my girlfriend did me well" If you remember that, you will never mess up the adverb and the adjective again
Ouch!
In truth, you use the word as it was actually intended and not its popular usage form, therefore you just passed my first "is he an engineer?" test. "Words mean things."
Jimflyfast
lurker first class
We all know you had to stand on your flight bag just to see inside your v-file, much less get your lazy ass over the rail. What do you do now that we have ditched the bags?
Ok, so you win your $5 on me making a short joke today
Bid a SEA layover one of these days
Ok, so you win your $5 on me making a short joke today
Bid a SEA layover one of these days
Now you know why that "mystery guy" kept pooping in your v-file at work!
I'm using persnickity-ness as the test, English is just the medium.
Well, the quote actually begins with "Do good stuff" so you muffed that part. On the well vs good part you are absolutely correct - I just enjoy the irony of a semi-palindrome combined with bad grammar. I'm a little bit weird that way. (I will admit that I mess up that particular adverb/adjective pair on occasion, but almost every time that I do I hear both my dad and my grandmother correcting me - disconcertingly so.) Ironically I was thinking just earlier this evening that I should change my signature line since it irritates *that* part of my brain every time I read it on my posts.
Jimflyfast
lurker first class
Honestly I was trying not to offend anyone. I know Derg fairly well and he knows what I mean by it and that I don't intend anything other than jest. Now looking back at it, I cant believe that rat bastard edited out the color of his lazy ass
TwoTwoLeft
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Man, if I had $1 for every time those words came out of my mouth I'd have my own 421 by now...
I notice for the Elevator, you say "ELEVATOR TO RECOVER ONCE OUT OF THE SPIN". Is this referring to the pitching to a level flight attitude, assuming the spin will stop solely through the application of rudder after the aggravation (P&A) is removed? I can think of several aggravated and non-aggraved spin modes in a few different aircraft where this wouldn't work (or work fast enough). You can mash the recovery rudder and everything will just keep spinning until the elevator is moved in attempt to reduce the AOA. Direction and amount amount of control displacement being dependent on whether the spin is upright or inverted, the type of airplane and nature of the spin. This is also assuming the elevator is still effective in the spin condition, which might not be the case in the airplanes you're in..?
For E, I use, Elevator- Put the stick where it Isn't. This is based on the idea of AOA control and too much pulling or pushing contributed to the situation. That, and I try to differentiate between the Beggs and P.A.R.E recovery procedures.
Thanks for taking the time to respond! When someone jumps in the pool and starts talking about inverted spins in a King Air, this usually happens...
Jimflyfast
lurker first class
That is exactly why I was hoping you would reply, because you have the knowledge and experience to add to the discussion
I do not typically fly acrobatic aircraft, especially ones with reduced stability like you probably do, so your advice is well taken. You are correct that I should have more correctly stated that the E was initially to move towards or through neutral, typically at the same time as the ailerons go neutral. Continued aft stick will make the situation worse. The PARE mnemonic really should be PARERE, but that doesnt sound very good (the second RE is Rudder Neutral, Elevator to recover after the rotation stops) I will edit my original post.
Trust me, I would rather not have to admit to some of the attitudes (airplane, not people) i have seen at work
edited BS Meter image to match OP's update - SteveC
I do not typically fly acrobatic aircraft, especially ones with reduced stability like you probably do, so your advice is well taken. You are correct that I should have more correctly stated that the E was initially to move towards or through neutral, typically at the same time as the ailerons go neutral. Continued aft stick will make the situation worse. The PARE mnemonic really should be PARERE, but that doesnt sound very good (the second RE is Rudder Neutral, Elevator to recover after the rotation stops) I will edit my original post.
Trust me, I would rather not have to admit to some of the attitudes (airplane, not people) i have seen at work
Man, if I had $1 for every time those words came out of my mouth I'd have my own 421 by now...
I notice for the Elevator, you say "ELEVATOR TO RECOVER ONCE OUT OF THE SPIN". Is this referring to the pitching to a level flight attitude, assuming the spin will stop solely through the application of rudder after the aggravation (P&A) is removed? I can think of several aggravated and non-aggraved spin modes in a few different aircraft where this wouldn't work (or work fast enough). You can mash the recovery rudder and everything will just keep spinning until the elevator is moved in attempt to reduce the AOA. Direction and amount amount of control displacement being dependent on whether the spin is upright or inverted, the type of airplane and nature of the spin. This is also assuming the elevator is still effective in the spin condition, which might not be the case in the airplanes you're in..?
For E, I use, Elevator- Put the stick where it Isn't. This is based on the idea of AOA control and too much pulling or pushing contributed to the situation. That, and I try to differentiate between the Beggs and P.A.R.E recovery procedures.
Thanks for taking the time to respond! When someone jumps in the pool and starts talking about inverted spins in a King Air, this usually happens...
edited BS Meter image to match OP's update - SteveC
Been dealing with his black ass for over two decades; just as long as he's been dealing with my iranian ass.
And he does a spot-on impression of my dad!
Jimflyfast
lurker first class
How did we ever let a iranian in a F-117? You lie on your security clearance?
Your dad is a midget?
Your dad is a midget?
Been dealing with his black ass for over two decades; just as long as he's been dealing with my iranian ass.
And he does a spot-on impression of my dad!
MICHAEL! MICHAEL! Park that piece of (expletive) truck behind the gate!Been dealing with his black ass for over two decades; just as long as he's been dealing with my iranian ass.
And he does a spot-on impression of my dad!