Cheyenne
Well-Known Member
I do like tight patterns.
I do too but you can make a really tight pattern without banking over 45*

I do like tight patterns.
you are a tool dude. Go volunteer or something and make your self useful.
The PPL PTS should require Spin Entry and Accelerated Stall training.
Fate is, and always will be, the hunter.What scares me about these accidents is that most likely a lot of these pilots are very competent and good. They just had a moment where their head was up an orifice or just got distracted.. and I think jeez I could easily do that.
RIPIf it quits, land it straight ahead, and under control.
Here we go again!
A voice that hollers "BANK ANGLE, BANK ANGLE" would be handy..
You might want to actually shut up and do a little more paying attention to what people say on this forum before making such comments. You've been here for what, a month? I kinda think Mike knows just a bit more than you...
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I suggest you stay out my conversation with him. Thank You.
Well you know what? This is a public thread and I'll voice my opinion when I feel like it. I suggest YOU get used to it.
you are a tool dude. Go volunteer or something and make your self useful.
MikeCWebb has taught me a lot just listening to him. A 45 degree bank in the pattern is ok probably, as long as it's coordinated. What I've seen is that coordination is lacking a lot of the time. Bank angle will scare people and they'll cheat with with rudder and make the plane cross controlled and then you spin. Of course, that TOOL MikeCWebb could disagree with me and I'd listen...because I acknowledge he knows more than me. You are foolish.
I think it's impractical to expect warning doodads for every conceivable situation in a light piston aircraft. This isn't an airliner, it's a Cirrus. If anything, the warning voice that goes off for abnormal situations should be the instructors voice in the pilot's head.
The PPL PTS should require Spin Entry and Accelerated Stall training.
Why? You spin a plane at 500 feet and I don't care who you are, its probably not going to come out of the spin before you run out of air. A vast majority of spin accidents are low altitude, where even having exact training in what to do in the situation wouldn't help. Teach people how to avoid spinning in the first place.
It just adds another tool to the toolbox. You're right that spin prevention and awareness is vital, however how is it going to hurt to actually see us some spins at a PPL level?
you are a tool dude. Go volunteer or something and make your self useful.
Yes, it hurt people quite a bit, as it was removed from the PTS.
Should we take out stalls in PPL also? Just go to the first indication every time? We don't really want to stall an airplane do we?
Yes, it hurt people quite a bit, as it was removed from the PTS.