Boom and bust, the regional jet phenomenon

[WestIndian425]

You can pretty much ignore what me and Boris are discussing, I'm taking a philosophical jab at him that has more to do with the nature of reality than applied economics.

The thing is, both jtrain609 and Boris Badenov have a way with words! I'm here marveling at the artistic combination of vocabulary and grammar. Forget the fact that this thread is about RJs!

 

[JOEFRIDAY2]

Third? I think we are at a bakers dozen between Pinnacle and Colgan. Mesaba and their literate staff have been running the show for us quite a while, but Pinnacle decided that wasn't good enough. Took Pinnacle 2 months to expose themselves as the inbred redneck thieves they are. Maybe only have been one month, but January I took reserve last out so I went to work 3 times (twice flying) and didn't break guarantee, so I'm a little out of the loop from the initial incompetence.


Anyway. My complaints are logged with US Wages and I have grievances filed. Anyone from Pinnacle/Colgan/Mesaba that nees the number please PM, I have it saved here somewhere.

That is a real insult to rednecks.

Joe

 

[JOEFRIDAY2]

Bottom line is that the CRJ-200 is now officially dead. It uses a lot of expensive fuel per passenger mile and it is no longer cost effective to fly it. There is no re-sale market. The CRJ-200's that are being taken out of service are being scrapped because there are no buyers. I do mostly agree with the article. There is a real market for a 90 seat aircraft. Always has been. The only question is who will fly them. Mainline or Regionals? My money is on mainline.

Joe

 

[derg]

Hell yeah there's a resale! I'd like to purchase five, fly one and use the other four for spare parts.

Then I could troll the internet looking for people willing to plunk down thousands for jet time!

 

[FloridaLarry]

Mike said: "On the paycheck thing; happens once, it's a fluke; twice a coincidence; third and beyond becomes a trend. And there's no excuse for that on their end."

Wise change on an old saying. Original, in a James Bond novel by Ian Fleming (don't remember which one) referred to things going wrong: "Third time is enemy action."

We have occasionally been our own worst enemy. Scope ain't just a mouthwash.

 

[SeanD]

Are regional jet pilots in Europe/Asia on the same payroll as the airline they are flying for, or are they separated cluster Fs like it is here?

 

[dasleben]

Are regional jet pilots in Europe/Asia on the same payroll as the airline they are flying for, or are they separated cluster Fs like it is here?

Europe is a lot like the US. Actually, PFT still exists out there.

 

[scooter2525]

Europe is a lot like the US. Actually, PFT still exists out there.

Can't imagine the cost there.

 

[dasleben]

Can't imagine the cost there.

Yeah, I'm thinking about Ryanair FOs...some, or all, pay for their own 737 type as part of training.

 

[derg]

Europe is a lot like the US. Actually, PFT still exists out there.

The booze is cheap and no refills on expensive soft drinks.

Me Gusta.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Yeah, I'm thinking about Ryanair FOs...some, or all, pay for their own 737 type as part of training.

Just like Southwest.

 

[dasleben]

Oh mai.

 

[derg]

Oh mai.

Mai... MAI TAI! That sounds good but I don't have any dark rum or orgeat. Sad face

 

[MikeD]

The booze is cheap and no refills on expensive soft drinks.

Me Gusta.

So a few frills thrown your direction, and now you support PFT ?!?!

 

[HVYMETALDRVR]

Student and friend of mine went to Alitalia (or some regional thereof) last yr to fly the Airbus with 500 sum hours, but yeah he said pay is like a bad US regional...

 

[derg]

So a few frills thrown your direction, and now you support PFT ?!?!

No, just the cheap booze. PFT/PFJ/EagleJet are the devil. Mephi-freaking-stopholes incarnate.

 

[moxiepilot]

Hell yeah there's a resale! I'd like to purchase five, fly one and use the other four for spare parts.

Then I could troll the internet looking for people willing to plunk down thousands for jet time!

Sad thing is that if you proposed that to a bank you could probably get the funds to do it. You would also have a line out the door for your "transition program" I'd bet you could even partner up with a few places to do that.

Don't do that.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Sad thing is that if you proposed that to a bank you could probably get the funds to do it. You would also have a line out the door for your "transition program" I'd bet you could even partner up with a few places to do that.

Don't do that.

Sounds like a pretty good way to make money. You might even make the EMB 135 "economical" in commercial service if the FO is paying to be there.

 

[dasleben]

Sounds like a pretty good way to make money. You might even make the EMB 135 "economical" in commercial service if the FO is paying to be there.

"Only $100/hr for an EMB-135 wet?? What a deal!"

 

[Autothrust Blue]

"Only $100/hr for an EMB-135 wet?? What a deal!"

BRB, buying some old Embraers!