amorris311
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It's not the in-flight magazine. It's purple though with a push to start.
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It's not the in-flight magazine. It's purple though with a push to start.
Ha!
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
It's not the in-flight magazine. It's purple though with a push to start.
That’s just to massage sore muscles!
Seggy
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Seggy
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It's not the in-flight magazine. It's purple though with a push to start.
Frustrated much?
CK
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EVS/HUD, a full EFIS panel, and a sleeper suit is the plane of men!? Come ride in a real Airbus one day
Boris Badenov
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alaskadrifter
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L1011 had the best jumpseat in the biz.
Maybe @WMostellar can drop in and tell us some stories about being a crewmember on it!
Maybe @WMostellar can drop in and tell us some stories about being a crewmember on it!
Used to see the TWA ones at PHX often. Seeing the one depart TUS a few months back was a nice reminder of them.
Cessnaflyer
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My friend just bought that RMK Pro 800 last week and it is a beast! Didn't get to test it out too much because it was really slushy this weekend on the ranch. My son also got to move up to the old RMK 550's we have. He did fairly good for only being 4 and 50 pounds.
alaskadrifter
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My wife grew up driving a 340 Indy Lite, I’m disappointed that fans aren’t being produced like they used to.
Cessnaflyer
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The best snowmobile we had out there used to be the Yamaha enticers. Those were some great kid machines!
I was a bit jealous of the newer machines and how easy they were to start-up. I don't think I'll have much nostalgia for cranking and starter fluid. Then losing a battery somewhere far off and having to pull until my traps were like Schwarzenegger's.
alaskadrifter
Landing gear operator
Cessnaflyer
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
That's what we make my son say when he is riding. Luckily for us sending it is him ripping it up to 10 mph.
ChasenSFO
hen teaser
I agree with much of what you said, but when I was keeping up during the Boeing/Douglas merger, it seemed pretty clear that Boeing thought the 717 was a competitor to its own product and that is why it killed the 717 line right away. 717s were somewhat popular in Australia(still are along with the Fokker 100) and the Mediterranean outside the USA. I'd argue that had the market been given time to stabilize post-9/11 but pre 2007 fuel pricing surges, perhaps another large order would have come through. A lot of airlines with 1-3 hour segments as their bread and butter had to replace MD-80s 2005-2015. Perhaps SAS would have been a candidate.Wait a minute, ain't no one (except Airtran) that went crazy bonkers for the 717. That's like looking back at a guy who went to Pan Am in 1980 and saying "wow, you shoulda gone to Delta!"
When the MD95 became the 717, Airtran went in and took them. TWA ordered 50 717s. American bought TWA and one of the first things they did was cancel the order. Midwest Express ordered some. Here's the orders and deliveries, but most important to note the amount (or lack thereof) of orders:
For an aircraft manufacturer, a production aircraft has to be produced every month. They can increase or reduce the number of airframes coming out of the factory, but they are made. If airlines aren't ordering that specific model then it's gonna be shelved. That's why Airbus was in trouble with the A380 line. It is very expensive to keep an aircraft line open without anywhere for those planes to go, and if they can't sell them then it's a hunk of metal collecting dust. Looks like Emirates just saved the A380. You can't blame Boeing for shutting down the 717. No one wanted it so they responded accordingly. Now oil came crashing down, RJs are too expensive to operate because their costs have gone up, too many lifers, and 1500 hr rule means having to pay a lot more to attract pilots. So airlines like Delta are putting the 717 in markets and taking inefficient RJs out of those markets.
It's simple economics. Boeing made the plane and in that environment, Airtran took it, and 9/11 hit and no one wanted it anymore. You can't expect them to keep the 717 line open. Now 15+ yrs later, they dynamics have changed enough that some airlines are looking for a 100-110 seat jet. You can't look back and say Boeing should have just kept it open without selling it. That's not how aircraft production works.
Good for Delta for geting the C-Series, but make no mistake. The C-Series wasn't selling! Even before the tariff it still wasn't selling. Swiss and Baltic are literally the only ones out there flying this jet. We'll see how Delta likes it and whether the C-Series gains traction in the United States with other carriesr.
Also, Korean Air is flying the C-Series 300 with 2 delivered and 8 on order, but may require more as LCCs and ULCCs have flooded the market in South Korea where no domestic flight is more than 90 minutes or so. Plenty of orders on the books, much better than the Superjet and Mitsubishi jet.
