ChasenSFO
hen teaser
Haha, I meant will as in only LH is flying them on revenue passenger flights right now, so its future tense for all other airlines.When did they announce the 747-800 model?
Boeing's taking a shot at a double decker
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Cessnaflyer
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You mean 747-8
FloridaLarry
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It's a concept plane, patented to protect the idea. Period.
The Boeing archives are full of them. Weird and ugly predecessors to the present.
Disclaimer: Boeing stockholder (v-e-r-y small position - two seat-belts and a barf bag worth!)
The Boeing archives are full of them. Weird and ugly predecessors to the present.
Disclaimer: Boeing stockholder (v-e-r-y small position - two seat-belts and a barf bag worth!)
n57flyguy
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When did they announce the 747-800 model?
Nice, thats the most vexxing comment in aviation today. Right above running oversquare.
Cessnaflyer
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My dad would always correct me when I said -800 because he was on the project a few years ago.
FloridaLarry
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Great Leader Doug said: "I don't know. I see 380's every darned day in a lot of different liveries."
Yeah, 77 380s have been delivered on 257 orders. While it makes economic sense for some users, it's also the ultimate SJS symbol, particularly for national airlines. Still having some teething troubles - wing root issues and RR Trent engine issues.
Since the first 747 was delivered in December of 1969, Boeing has delivered about 1,400 of them (their website is inconsistent - shows more deliveries than orders!) Order book is mostly freight these days - it's a mature product.
Yeah, 77 380s have been delivered on 257 orders. While it makes economic sense for some users, it's also the ultimate SJS symbol, particularly for national airlines. Still having some teething troubles - wing root issues and RR Trent engine issues.
Since the first 747 was delivered in December of 1969, Boeing has delivered about 1,400 of them (their website is inconsistent - shows more deliveries than orders!) Order book is mostly freight these days - it's a mature product.
Murdoughnut
Well sized member
Maybe, I haven't seen any numbers, but I believe higher capacity a/c are the future. Fewer per/pax expenses than flying the same number of people on 4 737s. As flow becomes a bigger and bigger issue, reducing the number of planes in the air will be the only thing that helps (other than improving ATC technology).
FloridaLarry
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Murdoughnut said...
Perhaps, but think of the consequences. How many passengers will want to fly between those two airports at that time? How much additional infrastructure will be required? It will only work at a few mega-airports where lots of spokes come to hub.
Routes that used to take a 747 are now flown regularly with 75s, 76s and 77s. Increased frequency at lower seat-mile costs wins out.
Right-sizing appears to be the future.
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As flow becomes a bigger and bigger issue, reducing the number of planes in the air will be the only thing that helpsPerhaps, but think of the consequences. How many passengers will want to fly between those two airports at that time? How much additional infrastructure will be required? It will only work at a few mega-airports where lots of spokes come to hub.
Routes that used to take a 747 are now flown regularly with 75s, 76s and 77s. Increased frequency at lower seat-mile costs wins out.
Right-sizing appears to be the future.
Douglas
Old School KSUX
Muff3n
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But that would mean there isn't going to be a huge pilot shortage like we hear on TV!
On topic, would 2 massive engines like that really be that much better than 4 highly efficient engines? I guess the grounds I am thinking on is redundancy, if you lose 1 engine out of 4 it isn't as bad as losing 1 of your 2 engines. That is just one angle I have at looking at it. I am sure that the two massive engines could be more efficient than 4 modern efficient engines like the ones on the 748.
Cessnaflyer
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Cuts down on maintenance and spares needed.But that would mean there isn't going to be a huge pilot shortage like we hear on TV!
On topic, would 2 massive engines like that really be that much better than 4 highly efficient engines? I guess the grounds I am thinking on is redundancy, if you lose 1 engine out of 4 it isn't as bad as losing 1 of your 2 engines. That is just one angle I have at looking at it. I am sure that the two massive engines could be more efficient than 4 modern efficient engines like the ones on the 748.
Boris Badenov
This is no laughing matter.
A big turboprop like a Bear would be awesome, and maybe even rational in the future world of $10/gallon Jet-A.
Plus, the Bear is, by most accounts I've read, the LOUDEST mass-produced aircraft ever made. So, yeah, allright, that's what I really like.
Man, I really need to learn Russian.
Plus, the Bear is, by most accounts I've read, the LOUDEST mass-produced aircraft ever made. So, yeah, allright, that's what I really like.
Man, I really need to learn Russian.
Cessnaflyer
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This is what we need to bring back.
http://www.air-and-space.com/198611...eneral Electric Unducted Fan right rear l.jpg
http://www.air-and-space.com/198611...eneral Electric Unducted Fan right rear l.jpg
5Right_5Left
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Just need to slap a couple of these on it.
And I second you on learning the learning Russian part.
Boris Badenov
This is no laughing matter.
This picture confuses me. It seems awesome, but then the giant props also sort of look like flowers. PAINTED flowers. And that's not very Russian, is it? They should look like bloody knives. Or maybe Vodka bottles.
5Right_5Left
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Yea definitely could loose the blue
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