Attendance tracking

averettpilot said:
Ok finally an update on why I started the thread in the first place. Thanks for all the responses.

I’ll keep it short. Essentially I was investigated for my point total which was the result of the worst cold season I’ve ever had. Son started his first full time year of preschool and I went from never flying airlines to always flying airlines. My total exceeded their threshold for “probable separation.” I thought it would be pretty straight forward since they were supposedly looking for abusers, and I was not one and could prove it with doctors records/notes for every single absence. It resulted in a “verbal warning”.

I appealed if for no other reason than to get them to tell me exactly what they were warning me of. The letter said they were warning me for my point total which I thought was adequately explained.

In the end, the result of the appeal was they removed the verbal warning (pretty much my only request), but I’m still left confused and quite frankly angry at this system they have in place. My view is it impacts safety related decisions we have to make concerning fitness for duty. I’ve used a couple different avenues to try and convey this to the company, but it seems their position won’t change.

Anyway, I’m actually pretty disappointed to find this kind of stuff at a 121. I expect it in 91/135 which is a large reason why I left. I guess regionals are just a half rung above 135.

Long story short, it just confirms that my original half thought of maybe staying here as a viable option isn’t based in reality, and the only option is to move on to bigger and better at some point.

Thanks again for the comments.
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Is this a regional?

Guys often forget that regionals aren’t very far removed from a crappy 135 operation.

My majors got one of that. Good for you for pressing them for it.
 
averettpilot said:
Ok finally an update on why I started the thread in the first place. Thanks for all the responses.

I’ll keep it short. Essentially I was investigated for my point total which was the result of the worst cold season I’ve ever had. Son started his first full time year of preschool and I went from never flying airlines to always flying airlines. My total exceeded their threshold for “probable separation.” I thought it would be pretty straight forward since they were supposedly looking for abusers, and I was not one and could prove it with doctors records/notes for every single absence. It resulted in a “verbal warning”.

I appealed if for no other reason than to get them to tell me exactly what they were warning me of. The letter said they were warning me for my point total which I thought was adequately explained.

In the end, the result of the appeal was they removed the verbal warning (pretty much my only request), but I’m still left confused and quite frankly angry at this system they have in place. My view is it impacts safety related decisions we have to make concerning fitness for duty. I’ve used a couple different avenues to try and convey this to the company, but it seems their position won’t change.

Anyway, I’m actually pretty disappointed to find this kind of stuff at a 121. I expect it in 91/135 which is a large reason why I left. I guess regionals are just a half rung above 135.

Long story short, it just confirms that my original half thought of maybe staying here as a viable option isn’t based in reality, and the only option is to move on to bigger and better at some point.

Thanks again for the comments.
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Yeah, that sucks man. Sorry you had to deal with that nonsense. Move up the ladder - 121 gets much better than that.
 
averettpilot said:
Ok finally an update on why I started the thread in the first place. Thanks for all the responses.

I’ll keep it short. Essentially I was investigated for my point total which was the result of the worst cold season I’ve ever had. Son started his first full time year of preschool and I went from never flying airlines to always flying airlines. My total exceeded their threshold for “probable separation.” I thought it would be pretty straight forward since they were supposedly looking for abusers, and I was not one and could prove it with doctors records/notes for every single absence. It resulted in a “verbal warning”.

I appealed if for no other reason than to get them to tell me exactly what they were warning me of. The letter said they were warning me for my point total which I thought was adequately explained.

In the end, the result of the appeal was they removed the verbal warning (pretty much my only request), but I’m still left confused and quite frankly angry at this system they have in place. My view is it impacts safety related decisions we have to make concerning fitness for duty. I’ve used a couple different avenues to try and convey this to the company, but it seems their position won’t change.

Anyway, I’m actually pretty disappointed to find this kind of stuff at a 121. I expect it in 91/135 which is a large reason why I left. I guess regionals are just a half rung above 135.

Long story short, it just confirms that my original half thought of maybe staying here as a viable option isn’t based in reality, and the only option is to move on to bigger and better at some point.

Thanks again for the comments.
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This sounds exactly like a friend's situation who is a captain at my shop. Except they tried to fire him over it. Things don't necessarily get better when you leave the regionals. Choose wisely.
 
Something I haven't seen mentioned yet is sick leave makeup. We had it at brown as I recall you got some sort of advantage at picking up open time to make up sick vs just regular pickup. I can't remember the details. That didn't help with your 6 calls in a rolling 12 month stats, where you would get a courtesy call from an ACP, but I always felt it showed good will if I tried to pick up and make up some of the sick time. If you can go out of your way to make up some of the sick days it might be a way to show some good will to the company and they will look the other way instead of taking action against you.
 
DE727UPS said:
Something I haven't seen mentioned yet is sick leave makeup. We had it at brown as I recall you got some sort of advantage at picking up open time to make up sick vs just regular pickup. I can't remember the details. That didn't help with your 6 calls in a rolling 12 month stats, where you would get a courtesy call from an ACP, but I always felt it showed good will if I tried to pick up and make up some of the sick time. If you can go out of your way to make up some of the sick days it might be a way to show some good will to the company and they will look the other way instead of taking action against you.
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Purple has this, too. We can make up sick and make up vacation.
 
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