SpiceWeasel
Tre Kronor
I got my ATP at the airline and had to show them a 5 year old test.
ATP Written
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I got my ATP at the airline and had to show them a 5 year old test.
Same. It served it's purpose and I'm happy, I'll gladly let them keep my money.
TexasT
Active Member
OK, so... I'm also in the ATP written boat. Took it about 18 months ago and passed (Gleim system), but came up short on time. So it'll expire far before I can get the total time needed for the certificate...
Is the ATP-CTP course going to be required just to take the written or for the issuance of the certificate? I seemed to have read both between the NPRM and numerous briefings I've ingested. I'm just wondering if rushing to take the written again is worth it if I'll have to turn around and take the CTP course ANYWAYS for the issuance of the certificate, when the time is right.
Flying a desk for an unnamed carrier, I'm willing to bet they'll make every effort to trap and retain new-hire pilots at ramen wages by recouping the money they didn't spend on 'training program development and implementation' by imposing ricidulous training contracts...
Is the ATP-CTP course going to be required just to take the written or for the issuance of the certificate? I seemed to have read both between the NPRM and numerous briefings I've ingested. I'm just wondering if rushing to take the written again is worth it if I'll have to turn around and take the CTP course ANYWAYS for the issuance of the certificate, when the time is right.
Flying a desk for an unnamed carrier, I'm willing to bet they'll make every effort to trap and retain new-hire pilots at ramen wages by recouping the money they didn't spend on 'training program development and implementation' by imposing ricidulous training contracts...
WildcatPilot
Well-Known Member
So let's say I'm a 300-hour commercial-single pilot who hasn't flown in the 3+ years since the checkride because I'm trying to save up for for CFI/Multi and can't afford to leave my day job to dive into training full-time. Is passing the ATP written prior to Aug. 1 plausible or is it safe to say this is a $20k nail in the coffin?
desertdog71
Girthy Member
Well, you have to get to 1500 hours within 2 years of passing the ATP written.
WildcatPilot
Well-Known Member
That's my other big concern. Don't see how that will happen.
desertdog71
Girthy Member
If you don't see it happening then there really is no point to knocking it out. Even if you had your CFI I still think it would be tough to knock out 1200 hours in 2 years. I wouldn't worry about the $20,000 nail in the coffin, because if these places need pilots, they will find a way.
hook_dupin
Well-Known Member
This guy is advertising 100 hours a month as a CFI:
http://forums.jetcareers.com/forums/jobs-available-members-only.125/
A guy a my flight school regularly bills 1500 hours a year and another guy turned in 96 hours on a two-week pay period. (not sure the air/ground mix of either).
It goes something like this: if you try hard enough and you believe in yourself, every pizza can become a personal pizza.
desertdog71
Girthy Member
Agreed, but I did not get a sense of urgency from his posts. Has not flown in 3 years and lacks the funds and time to devote to training.
I feel like there is some misconception going around....
You aren't going to have to pay for your ATP. Airlines have developed ATP training programs. You will receive your ATP as part of initial training at any 121 operator.
If the airline route isn't for you I'm sure any corporate flight department that is actually worth working for will have the ATP as part of their type rating program(or FSI's, CAE etc).
If you were planning on a job where you need a type going in well that's probably 20k anyway.
WildcatPilot
Well-Known Member
http://www.avweb.com/news/features/The-New-ATPA-Brief-Window-Before-the-Sky-Falls221453-1.html
This is what's got me worried. If the airlines set up and pay for the training programs, I'll be relieved. The picture this article paints isn't rosy.
