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To anyone who may be interested: I took the ATP exam about an hour ago and scored a 91%. I used Sheppard Air and studied sporadically for a whole week. Now I just need to reach ATP mins in the next two years....
 
Cloud Surfer said:
To anyone who may be interested: I took the ATP exam about an hour ago and scored a 91%. I used Sheppard Air and studied sporadically for a whole week. Now I just need to reach ATP mins in the next two years....
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I'm in the same boat. Taking my ATP next few weeks, but only 700tt.

Averaging 70hrs/ mo at the moment here in AK, but currently it's just a summer gig... and winter hours are fewer anyway even if I got invited to stay. #foxworldproblems

-Fox
 
Acrofox said:
I'm in the same boat. Taking my ATP next few weeks, but only 700tt.

Averaging 70hrs/ mo at the moment here in AK, but currently it's just a summer gig... and winter hours are fewer anyway even if I got invited to stay. #foxworldproblems

-Fox
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I liked your old avatar better
 
I got Sheppard Air a few months ago and have probably studied a cumulative two hours. Guess I'd better get on that. After that I should be able to make ATP mins with plenty of time to spare, hopefully. I put together a special section of my logbook spreadsheet that gives me an estimated date of reaching the 1500 hrs based on current trends, and it's showing late Jan/early Feb right now.
 
Acrofox said:
I'm in the same boat. Taking my ATP next few weeks, but only 700tt.

Averaging 70hrs/ mo at the moment here in AK, but currently it's just a summer gig... and winter hours are fewer anyway even if I got invited to stay. #foxworldproblems

-Fox
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I wish you nothing but the best to get to that 1500 goal. I took the ATP written in 2008 and I was about 80 hours short when it expired. I bet if you can get a mapping gig next year that you will hit 1500 in no time!
 
guywhoflies said:
I wish you nothing but the best to get to that 1500 goal. I took the ATP written in 2008 and I was about 80 hours short when it expired. I bet if you can get a mapping gig next year that you will hit 1500 in no time!
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Definitely not at all sure if I'd really want to go from a rather awesome job flying 207s/208s part 135 to mapping just in the interest of TT. I'm sure the ATP situation will sort itself out in a year or so, and I doubt long-term people are going to be paying thousands for their ATP program, but of course we shall see.

Not that there's anything wrong with survey, mind you...

-Fox
 
guywhoflies said:
Just took my ATP written again(first one expired) after studying with the Sheppard Air program. The good news: I only missed two. The bad news: I don't get the refund for scoring below an 80.
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I tried to score below an 80 as I was broke at the time and needed the money back! I only missed 2.
 
I think Sheppard Air refunds you if you get below a 90 on the ATP. Hope the test is as easy as you guys say. I am half way through the questions and some of the regs and calculations seem pretty confusing to me.
 
To be honest, I just realized a few days ago this ATP written thing actually would come into effect. I usually keep up on these things but it seemed so ludicrous given the regional staffing issues that I figured there was no way it would actually pass. Whoops. This has fast become a huge headache for me as I'm a PPL with 180 hours and getting to 1500 would mean A LOT of flying. I'll save the details but I simply cannot relocate from the Bay Area. I'm also back in college(taking it seriously) and doing tons of stuff to further my non-flying sources of income which I cannot give up. If I left the ramp tower(and my free health, vision, and dental so that would suck), that would free up 4 days a week for flying and I could probably still balance everything else around it(though I do all my college work and much of my non-flying work during downtime so this is a firm maybe). But realistically, that is all I can afford to clear for flying. 4 days max. I've given it a lot of thought, it would be unrealistic to think I could CFI more than that consistently. Given that I doubt I'll have my CFI until August or September, and that I'd usually be flying 4 days a week at best, could I even possibly get to 1500 hours? Or am I just screwed?

If I could only fly at my own pace, I couldn't ask for more out of life at this point. Thanks, Obama...
 
ChasenSFO said:
To be honest, I just realized a few days ago this ATP written thing actually would come into effect. I usually keep up on these things but it seemed so ludicrous given the regional staffing issues that I figured there was no way it would actually pass. Whoops. This has fast become a huge headache for me as I'm a PPL with 180 hours and getting to 1500 would mean A LOT of flying. I'll save the details but I simply cannot relocate from the Bay Area. I'm also back in college(taking it seriously) and doing tons of stuff to further my non-flying sources of income which I cannot give up. If I left the ramp tower(and my free health, vision, and dental so that would suck), that would free up 4 days a week for flying and I could probably still balance everything else around it(though I do all my college work and much of my non-flying work during downtime so this is a firm maybe). But realistically, that is all I can afford to clear for flying. 4 days max. I've given it a lot of thought, it would be unrealistic to think I could CFI more than that consistently. Given that I doubt I'll have my CFI until August or September, and that I'd usually be flying 4 days a week at best, could I even possibly get to 1500 hours? Or am I just screwed?

If I could only fly at my own pace, I couldn't ask for more out of life at this point. Thanks, Obama...
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Frankly...no, if you plan on doing all those things at the same time. You would be working your ass off day in and day out with college and full time flying. Stay in college and get that out f the way first. Oh, and keep that ramp job and those benefits!!! They will lesson your costs over time.

I do remain optimistic that the airline training departments will find some way of certifying their programs for the ATP-CTP. If they don't, whatever staffing problems they have now will only grow worse a hundredfold! There will be some kind of catch though...hopefully it won't be too bad.

As for yout time building, CFI part time until you have a degree. Then enter full time flying.
 
Cloud Surfer said:
Frankly...no, if you plan on doing all those things at the same time. You would be working your ass off day in and day out with college and full time flying. Stay in college and get that out f the way first. Oh, and keep that ramp job and those benefits!!! They will lesson your costs over time.

I do remain optimistic that the airline training departments will find some way of certifying their programs for the ATP-CTP. If they don't, whatever staffing problems they have now will only grow worse a hundredfold! There will be some kind of catch though...hopefully it won't be too bad.

As for yout time building, CFI part time until you have a degree. Then enter full time flying.
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Yeah, that was all the plan before this crazy ATP thing. Guess there's no point in being overly optimistic and taking the written all things considered. Oh well...who knows, maybe the FAA will pick me up and I won't even need the ATP, anything could happen.
 
ChasenSFO said:
To be honest, I just realized a few days ago this ATP written thing actually would come into effect. I usually keep up on these things but it seemed so ludicrous given the regional staffing issues that I figured there was no way it would actually pass. Whoops. This has fast become a huge headache for me as I'm a PPL with 180 hours and getting to 1500 would mean A LOT of flying. I'll save the details but I simply cannot relocate from the Bay Area. I'm also back in college(taking it seriously) and doing tons of stuff to further my non-flying sources of income which I cannot give up. If I left the ramp tower(and my free health, vision, and dental so that would suck), that would free up 4 days a week for flying and I could probably still balance everything else around it(though I do all my college work and much of my non-flying work during downtime so this is a firm maybe). But realistically, that is all I can afford to clear for flying. 4 days max. I've given it a lot of thought, it would be unrealistic to think I could CFI more than that consistently. Given that I doubt I'll have my CFI until August or September, and that I'd usually be flying 4 days a week at best, could I even possibly get to 1500 hours? Or am I just screwed?

If I could only fly at my own pace, I couldn't ask for more out of life at this point. Thanks, Obama...
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Are you thinking of going to a regional at some point? If so I would not worry since as long as you have the requisite times they will take care of the classroom and sim stuff in your new hire training.
 
Roger Roger said:
Are you thinking of going to a regional at some point? If so I would not worry since as long as you have the requisite times they will take care of the classroom and sim stuff in your new hire training.
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Yep, when I meet the mins and can handle the time/dedication required to start at a regional, I do plan to do it. I'm just worried now about what will become of this ATP written requirement come August 2016. Logically, one would assume they would take care of it all if you met the mins, but then again, logically this simulator and classroom training should have never passed so nothing would surprise me anymore.
 
ChasenSFO said:
Yep, when I meet the mins and can handle the time/dedication required to start at a regional, I do plan to do it. I'm just worried now about what will become of this ATP written requirement come August 2016. Logically, one would assume they would take care of it all if you met the mins, but then again, logically this simulator and classroom training should have never passed so nothing would surprise me anymore.
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the regionals will have to deal with it in 2 years.. Right now, having the written is likely to move your resume to the top of the stack (saves money), but on the other hand, having a pulse probably moves your resume up just as far.
 
ChasenSFO said:
To be honest, I just realized a few days ago this ATP written thing actually would come into effect. I usually keep up on these things but it seemed so ludicrous given the regional staffing issues that I figured there was no way it would actually pass. Whoops. This has fast become a huge headache for me as I'm a PPL with 180 hours and getting to 1500 would mean A LOT of flying. I'll save the details but I simply cannot relocate from the Bay Area. I'm also back in college(taking it seriously) and doing tons of stuff to further my non-flying sources of income which I cannot give up. If I left the ramp tower(and my free health, vision, and dental so that would suck), that would free up 4 days a week for flying and I could probably still balance everything else around it(though I do all my college work and much of my non-flying work during downtime so this is a firm maybe). But realistically, that is all I can afford to clear for flying. 4 days max. I've given it a lot of thought, it would be unrealistic to think I could CFI more than that consistently. Given that I doubt I'll have my CFI until August or September, and that I'd usually be flying 4 days a week at best, could I even possibly get to 1500 hours? Or am I just screwed?
If I could only fly at my own pace, I couldn't ask for more out of life at this point. Thanks, Obama...
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Not as frustrating as having 1800TT, 500TPIC, but not being able to take the written due to age. And missing the age requirement by 5 months. :bang:

But I know for a fact airline training departments will implement this into their course. The screwed people are small 135 operators.
 
Do airlines actually see your score and ask about missed questions once you have your ATP? Also, what is everyone's first choice of employers once you hit 1500 hours?
 
Beech90 said:
Not as frustrating as having 1800TT, 500TPIC, but not being able to take the written due to age. And missing the age requirement by 5 months. :bang:

But I know for a fact airline training departments will implement this into their course. The screwed people are small 135 operators.
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Nah dude, you'll be fine if you're 22 with those times.
 
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