ATL-MSP.....And out come the slides

Exactly.

And before anyone else texts me, yes, I’ve been seeing this since breakfast yesterday in Seoul, if it’s been more than about 20 minutes, I already know.

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I really, don’t need it forwarded to me, I have no idea who it is, it’s a single breasted coat and I haven’t a clue. Even if I knew who he was or who he worked for (Apparently there were almost 25 DH’ers onboard) I wouldn’t say.

It does not matter.
Thankfully he didn’t start tumbling and leave the slide face forward. As much as I’ll gripe about my shop I’m thankful for the lack of cameras that come out when crap hits the fan. Other than Waffle House and picking up strange no one cares about
what happens with a cargo plane at 4am.
 
LIstening to the audio, it seems it was intially reported the fire was out, and then later it was reported it was still going and a decision was made. Very shortly after that decision was made it was said that it was smoking, but out (not sure if that was the case on the first call and fire and smoke used interchangably or what). Sounds like the ARFF could have been much more descriptive on what it was seeing. But sounds like the crew made the decision to pop the cork and stuck with it. No fault in that.

As soon as this happened I saw comments on the FB pages who were real time listening saying the ARFF communication was so confusing it sounded like you had no choice kinda scenario to blow the slides.


Listening to the comms from the incident I'm not impressed with the ARFF crew's radio work. Tower initially tells them they don't see any smoke or fire, then fire chief in a half garbled and broken up chain of transmissions brings up "smoke" and "fire" a couple of times. The crew even asked for clarification and received a vague response from them. I can totally see how it's easy to pull the evacuation trigger with unclear messaging like that. Especially since so many of our sim sessions end exactly like that, with the fire crew telling us we're still on fire as a prompt to run the evacuation checklist. I'm personally a little more hesitant to evacuate as a general philosophy unless it's a cut and dry situation, but with unclear messaging like that it's difficult to think what I would have done in the heat of battle (or should I say cold of battle with that kind of weather). Better comms would have definitely made everything easier. Either way everyone got out safely so I'll say nicely done



ARFF crew? In the recording, Ops 3, the guy describing what he’s seeing, isn’t an ARFF fire truck. It’s an airport operations vehicle. The airport ops vehicles were out there supervising the runway clearing operations.

ARFF trucks began to arrive after the evac had already begun. That’s who ARFF 4 is, who arrives on scene and describes an evac already in progress and will be getting additional fire units out there to assist the evac.

You’re blaming the wrong people for the bad comms.
 
When did you start a corporate shuttle?

Are you hiring? Bases, QoL, upgrade times and do you need FACTs trained cabin crew ?

Heh. That's us only between JFK and BOS when IROPS hit one and not the other. Half a flight of 100 seats will be pilots and FAs.
 
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