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Woah hoss! if we lose an engine on departure, we aren't climbing to 14000! We are headed back to the airport after declaration of an emergency. So there was no error. Second of all, I understand the service ceiling and temperature tie in...there is a better way to convey them... without telling someone they are in error.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to come across like I was shaking my finger at you. I really wasn't. I thought about apologizing for using the word error, but, after rereading the posts, I don't think that was the wrong term. Keep in mind from our perspectives there is NEVER a turn and return. Once those brakes are released, we are committed to the FULL departure.
Not going all the way to 14K? Fine, figure the climb rate for pattern altitude, not field elevation, THAT was the error.
Understanding service ceiling is not what I was pointing out. I was trying to give you a short cut. Instead of looking at climb rates at field elev and top of climb, you look at the SE service ceiling. If you can't maintain your desired climb altitude, you know you sure can't climb to that altitude.
A 300 fpm climb is only going to put you into someone's den window (you'll see what I mean when you get there), it doesn't matter if you try left or right traffic.
Consider that Jason and I fly out of there in jets that climb 6000fpm on two engines and better than 1500-2000fpm on one engine and it still makes us sit up and take notice. It really is pretty there in the winter though.